Sep 15, 2000 09:17
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French term
Karen Tucker
maitrise d'oeuvre / maitrise d'ouvrage
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French to English
Bus/Financial
Is there a difference between these two terms? I always thought they could both be translated as project management, but I recently edited a translation in which both were listed, one right after the other, with little context. Also, is "general contractor" a better term in the field of construction? Thanks, Karen
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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This one used to get me too but I think I have it straight now :
MAITRE D'OUVRE : architect (employed by the owner), engineer for the works, general contractor, main contractor, prime contractor
MAITRE D'OUVRAGE : owner, employer, client (of arhcitect); contracting authority (public works)
The dicos below are useful :
Architecture & Construction , J.R. Forbes, Lavoisier
ISBN (2-7430-0010-4)
Archtiecture & batiment, Hasol, Le Moniteur
ISBN (2-281-11169-5)
Nikki
MAITRE D'OUVRE : architect (employed by the owner), engineer for the works, general contractor, main contractor, prime contractor
MAITRE D'OUVRAGE : owner, employer, client (of arhcitect); contracting authority (public works)
The dicos below are useful :
Architecture & Construction , J.R. Forbes, Lavoisier
ISBN (2-7430-0010-4)
Archtiecture & batiment, Hasol, Le Moniteur
ISBN (2-281-11169-5)
Nikki
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Comment: "I want to thank both you and Yolanda for clearing up an issue that's bugged me for a long time. I guess I don't understand the need for "maitre d'ouvrage" when it's the same thing as customer, client or owner. Thanks for your very thorough answers. Karen"
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Yolanda Broad
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General contractor is most common in the U.S.
And yes, there does seem to be a difference between *maîtrise d'oeuvre* and *maîtrise d'ouvrage*, or at least, there's a difference between *m... d'oeuvre* and m... d'ouvrage*, from LGDT:
Domaine(s)
bâtiment
gestion
gestion de projet
owner (a)
The contracting party who initiates a project and will have title to the facility upon its completion. (a)
Note(s): The owner, for whose benefit the work is carried out, is sometimes referred to as client. (a)
maître d'ouvrage n m (a)
Féminin: maîtresse d'ouvrage n f (b)
Personne physique ou morale qui commande la réalisation du projet, conclut le contrat et reçoit l'ouvrage terminé. (a)
Note(s): Le maître de l'ouvrage devient propriétaire au moment où il prend possession de l'ouvrage terminé. (a)
Synonyme(s):
maître de l'ouvrage n m (a)
[Office de la langue française, 1992]
RBT8402837
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Domaine(s)
appellation d'emploi
gestion
administration publique
gestion de projet
marché public
principal contractor (ab)
A contractor who is responsible for the execution of all of the work on a construction site. (a)
Note(s): The contractor may be the owner. (bc)
((See also :)) prime contractor ; general contractor. (a)
Synonyme(s):
main contractor (a)
maître d'oeuvre n m (ab)
Personne physique ou morale qui est responsable de l'exécution de l'ensemble des travaux de construction. (a)
Le maître d'oeuvre peut être le propriétaire. (bc)
Note(s): ((D'après la)) Loi sur la santé et la sécurité du travail, 1981, S-2.1. (b)
((Voir aussi :)) entrepreneur principal ; entrepreneur général. (a)
[Office de la langue française, 1998]
RBT2071668
And I'm off the computer---thunder storm is coming on strong...
And yes, there does seem to be a difference between *maîtrise d'oeuvre* and *maîtrise d'ouvrage*, or at least, there's a difference between *m... d'oeuvre* and m... d'ouvrage*, from LGDT:
Domaine(s)
bâtiment
gestion
gestion de projet
owner (a)
The contracting party who initiates a project and will have title to the facility upon its completion. (a)
Note(s): The owner, for whose benefit the work is carried out, is sometimes referred to as client. (a)
maître d'ouvrage n m (a)
Féminin: maîtresse d'ouvrage n f (b)
Personne physique ou morale qui commande la réalisation du projet, conclut le contrat et reçoit l'ouvrage terminé. (a)
Note(s): Le maître de l'ouvrage devient propriétaire au moment où il prend possession de l'ouvrage terminé. (a)
Synonyme(s):
maître de l'ouvrage n m (a)
[Office de la langue française, 1992]
RBT8402837
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Domaine(s)
appellation d'emploi
gestion
administration publique
gestion de projet
marché public
principal contractor (ab)
A contractor who is responsible for the execution of all of the work on a construction site. (a)
Note(s): The contractor may be the owner. (bc)
((See also :)) prime contractor ; general contractor. (a)
Synonyme(s):
main contractor (a)
maître d'oeuvre n m (ab)
Personne physique ou morale qui est responsable de l'exécution de l'ensemble des travaux de construction. (a)
Le maître d'oeuvre peut être le propriétaire. (bc)
Note(s): ((D'après la)) Loi sur la santé et la sécurité du travail, 1981, S-2.1. (b)
((Voir aussi :)) entrepreneur principal ; entrepreneur général. (a)
[Office de la langue française, 1998]
RBT2071668
And I'm off the computer---thunder storm is coming on strong...
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