Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Chinese term or phrase:
號
English translation:
indicates the presence of a code number
Added to glossary by
Roddy Stegemann
Jun 27, 2006 09:36
17 yrs ago
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號
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Grammatical Analysis
Sentence: 她家裏的電話是二三四五一五號，不是二三四五五一號。
1st Attempt: Her telephone number is not 234 515; it is 234 551.
Question One: Is this standard written 中文? Obviously her telephone is not a number, but then neither is a telephone conversation a telephone. Any wisdom here?
Question Two: Then too, what happened to the 碼 in 號碼? Does it not work with telephone numbers?
As always you are welcome to comment on other parts of the sentence, as well.
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1st Attempt: Her telephone number is not 234 515; it is 234 551.
Question One: Is this standard written 中文? Obviously her telephone is not a number, but then neither is a telephone conversation a telephone. Any wisdom here?
Question Two: Then too, what happened to the 碼 in 號碼? Does it not work with telephone numbers?
As always you are welcome to comment on other parts of the sentence, as well.
http://homepage.mac.com/moogoonghwa/tsongkit/contents.html#p...
Warning: In order to provide ProZ.com users with the best glossary entries possible, more than one question for the same entry will be asked from time to time. Please keep in mind when responding that you will be graded on your responses to ALL questions asked.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | number;code |
haifengwu
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Proposed translations
+2
1 hr
Selected
number;code
Yes it is standard written 中文. 電話 is a short form of 電話號碼 and is used as so whenever it is followed by a number or the context clue is evident. 電話 can also mean telephone conversation in Chinese in the same sense that I telephoned Tom last night means I had a telephone conversation with him.
號 and 碼 share the same meaning and are in many cases interchangeable, only that the former is more colloquial, popular and vernacular, while the latter is a learned classic word and more ofenly used in academic studies, such as 密碼 or code.
號 and 碼 share the same meaning and are in many cases interchangeable, only that the former is more colloquial, popular and vernacular, while the latter is a learned classic word and more ofenly used in academic studies, such as 密碼 or code.
Example sentence:
我把他的电话忘了。
只有一个人知道保险箱的密码。
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Comment: "Final rendering: Her telephone number is not 234 515; it is 234 551.
Discussion: Please see http://homepage.mac.com/moogoonghwa/tsongkit/part2/II-9b-g.html#s15 for further discussion.
Acknowledgement: My thanks to haifengwu and wherestip's for their response. Certainly, haifengwu's answer helped to clear up the problem of the multiple uses of 電話, 號, 嗎 and 號嗎. I hope that I have captured them properly in my explanation on the Tsong Kit website.
Best wishes from the land of no mountains surrounded by sea on many sides."
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