May 3, 2018 10:16
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Swedish term

blatte

Swedish to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. slang, racial slurs
This comes from a sociological study on the Swedish police and the riots in the Malmö suburb of Rosengård in 2008. As the police were filming the incidents, one of the officers referred to the people rioting as "blattedjävlar". As this video was later leaked to the media, somewhat of a scandal erupted involving both the individual police officers and the Malmö police department.

So what I'm looking for here is an English (US) equivalent to the derogatory term "blatte", which in Swedish refers to someone who is foreign and does not look typically "Swedish". In other words, it would not (ordinarily) be used for someone from Germany or Russia, but may be used for someone from Spain or Greece and would definately be used for someone from the Middle East, Africa, Latin America and so on.

Due to the sensitive nature of these types of racial slurs, please note that I do not condone the use of such terms - in fact, I find them nasty and demeaning.

Discussion

freekfluweel May 7, 2018:
blatant devils literal -> can't go wrong there!
Deane Goltermann May 3, 2018:
Nothing wrong with looking reality in the eye... there are nasty ppl out there and we have to describe them at times. So you'd get the right sense by putting the N word in the mouths of the cops in your context ... preceded, of course, by f**in.'
Perhaps with an explanation in parentheses ... "(a Swedish equivalent to) ...
Paul Lambert May 3, 2018:
Harder than it seems. I suppose it is to our credit that we polite people find this question difficult to answer.
Paul Lambert May 3, 2018:
There are other mean words too... ...but you don't need to point out that you dislike them. You are just looking for a word after all. I note you did not mention that you disapprove of riots. ;0)

Proposed translations

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rag head

One option, especially referring to Arabs.



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darkie(s)

There are other, worse terms obviously but I think this one strikes the right note for pretty much anyone with darker than white skin.
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neutral Paul Lambert : That seems a little too mild. It would be like translating "skitstövel" as "you meanie".
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Thanks for the input! I think in context, i.e. 'bloody darkies', it's very offensive indeed, although I guess that's a subjective opinion. In fact even without the expletive, I still find it very offensive.
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camel jockey/turban head

A little looking says your term refers to Middle Eastern/northern African folks derogartorily -- https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/blatte

This suggestion came into fashion after I moved here, and is still used. As in "f**in camel jockeys" from definition 2 here -- https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Camel Jockey Then if you want to sound nastier you'd use 'towel heads' or 'rag heads.'

These generally (technically??) refer to 'Arabs' or Middle Easterners.including Pakistanis.

Racists in the US are pretty specific about origin, with a variety of other nasty terms for Latin Americans (and everyone else for that matter -- from Irish, to German, Italians and Greeks to name only a few), so these wouldn't be considered together. I was once called a 'PR' for having been born in Venezuela... and was provided the definition "PR applies to everyone south of Texas," when I objected to the geographical inaccuracy since PR refers to Puerto Ricans. But 'spics' certainly applies to Latinos in a highly derogatory way....

Now you got me started but this'll give you some ideas.
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wog(s)

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neutral Agneta Pallinder : Has the advantage of being as vague and lazy as "blatte" - but perhaps not used in US English??
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2 days 3 hrs

subhuman

:o)
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