Jan 19, 2005 22:06
19 yrs ago
French term

fer

French to English Medical Medical (general) inguinal hernia repair
laparotomie, utilisation du fer type Lichtenstein _ Oui ´´ Non
Taille de la suture |__|__| mm

16. Précision sur la plaque
4D Dome
re-découpage du fer Oui Non
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 mesh
3 type of suture material
2 diathermy

Discussion

Dr Sue Levy (X) Jan 20, 2005:
Lydia, how about asking this in the French>French list?
Zareh Darakjian Ph.D. Jan 19, 2005:
There is a grid-iron incision for hernia repair, but I don't see how this can be it.

www.hernia.pl/start/czas-hernia
Dr Sue Levy (X) Jan 19, 2005:
Curiouser and curiouser... unless it's an acronym F.E.R. but I can't see what that would be either
Zareh Darakjian Ph.D. Jan 19, 2005:
let me check further...
Non-ProZ.com Jan 19, 2005:
Throughout the document they use "plaque" for mesh. my question is why suddenly say "fer"?
Non-ProZ.com Jan 19, 2005:
The context seems to suggest mesh (for "fer"). Has anyone else ever seen fer used that way?

Proposed translations

+2
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mesh

This is based on my google check, It seems plausible though.

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www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lichtenstein mesh&btnG=Google...

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bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/326/7397/1012

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A reference for grid-iron

www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lichtenstein grid-iron&btnG=G...
Peer comment(s):

agree Marilyn Amouyal : the Lichtenstein technique definitely uses a mesh. "fer" is sometimes used to refer to a stapler that can be used during hernia repair, but Lichtenstein does not seem to be associated with a particular stapler. See www.globalfamilydoctor.com/ mejfm-journa
32 mins
Thank you Marilyn for your very helpful clarification!
agree Assimina Vavoula
8 hrs
Thank you npapad1!
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type of suture material

The text asks for the length of the suture and whether the "fer" perhaps suture material needed to be cut again. I do not feel that fer refers to the mesh. The hernia repairs I have seen the surgeon cut the mesh, placed and sutured it in place. Fer in this context could refer to the material used for suturing. I am not 100% certain.
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10 hrs

diathermy

another stab in the "pénombre"

The only "fer" I can think of in the surgical context is "fer à cautériser" - diathermy instrument. This would fit in with "utilisation du fer", but "type Lichtenstein" and "re-découpage du fer" ???

This must be either closed-shop surgeon-speak or a typo!
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