Jul 13, 2006 09:17
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minus 316 Passagieren weniger auf der Linie
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annual report
Hope someone can help with this please... An airport management company is reporting on its results for the year and I cannot understand the bit in ***s.
Trotz eines leichten Rückgangs im Charteraufkommen
(-1,7%) und ***minus 316 Passagieren weniger auf der Linie***,
I presume that it does not just mean that there were 316 fewer charter passengers (the airport's scheduled passneger volume is 900,000) but am not sure about auf der Linie ....Thanks for any help
Trotz eines leichten Rückgangs im Charteraufkommen
(-1,7%) und ***minus 316 Passagieren weniger auf der Linie***,
I presume that it does not just mean that there were 316 fewer charter passengers (the airport's scheduled passneger volume is 900,000) but am not sure about auf der Linie ....Thanks for any help
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316 fewer passengers in scheduled service
Two different categories, charter flights and scheduled flights, with the corresponding figures for each (they probably went with the actual figure instead of percentage because it would be insigificant as a percentage of total scheduled capacity (-0.03%).
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_airline
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_airline
Note from asker:
| I might have to check with the customer on this one becuase it is pretty ambiguous ... It is for Graz Intl. Airport (Austria's second largest] but I suppose they could just have one schedule or charter operator... They do say earlier in the text though that the scheduled passengers are down 0.6% on last year which is 5000 passengers and not 316 so unfortunately that does not fit |
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Stephen Sadie
: the text ist talking about total charter flights (aufkommen), comparing with the no. of passengers on this specific airline//very strange to compare % & numbers though!
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That's your interpretation, which I feel is wrong or wouldn't have suggested another answer. I think you're a little overconfident on this one.
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Armorel Young
: I think Stephen has misread it - I agree with Harry that passengers are being divided into 2 categories; chartered are down by 1.7% and scheduled by 316 passengers
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Darin Fitzpatrick
: This may be a case where you need to translate what the author said, even if it's not what he meant. See my note above.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks Harry and all the others (Stephen, Darin, Armorel, David, Andras, Avantix, Sladjana...). Still not entirely sure because the customer never got back to me, but I had to put something and this seemed to fit best "
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316 fewer passangers flew with the airline
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Note added at 16 mins (2006-07-13 09:34:15 GMT)
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Basically you're right, evidently they did better that the average for charter business
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Note added at 16 mins (2006-07-13 09:34:15 GMT)
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Basically you're right, evidently they did better that the average for charter business
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Sladjana Spaic
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thanks sladjana
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Armorel Young
: With what airline? This must refer to scheduled flights in general, not to one particular (unspecified) airline.
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avantix
: agree with Armorel
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316 passengers less on scheduled services (operated by one airline)
I am well aware that this answer seems to repeat the other two, but the explanation does not.
My reading is that this concerns a minor airport operating mainly charter flights, where the traffic was down by 1.7%, and which also has scheduled services operated by only one airline, for which the figures were down by 316 over the year.
It does seem rather odd, however, that the writer uses percentage and then absolute, where an "either/or" approach would be far more logical (and better understood...).
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Note added at 4 hrs (2006-07-13 13:46:06 GMT)
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Charles: have you a split between charter and shceduled passengers? Your "5,000" is 0.6% of the TOTAL passengers, whereas they state the 316 reduction is on "Linie" (i.e. scheduled)pax, and they give a 1.7% figure as reduction in charter pax..
By the way, the website does give a TOTAL passenger figure of 900,000, so my version may yet prove to be correct...
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Note added at 4 hrs (2006-07-13 13:49:46 GMT)
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And on perusing the website, it is quite clear there are a number of airlines operating scheduled services, so please consider my reference to "one single airline" deleted...
My reading is that this concerns a minor airport operating mainly charter flights, where the traffic was down by 1.7%, and which also has scheduled services operated by only one airline, for which the figures were down by 316 over the year.
It does seem rather odd, however, that the writer uses percentage and then absolute, where an "either/or" approach would be far more logical (and better understood...).
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Note added at 4 hrs (2006-07-13 13:46:06 GMT)
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Charles: have you a split between charter and shceduled passengers? Your "5,000" is 0.6% of the TOTAL passengers, whereas they state the 316 reduction is on "Linie" (i.e. scheduled)pax, and they give a 1.7% figure as reduction in charter pax..
By the way, the website does give a TOTAL passenger figure of 900,000, so my version may yet prove to be correct...
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Note added at 4 hrs (2006-07-13 13:49:46 GMT)
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And on perusing the website, it is quite clear there are a number of airlines operating scheduled services, so please consider my reference to "one single airline" deleted...
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avantix
: I agree with the first part, but would leave the bracketed part out. Who says that there's only one airline operating scheduled services??
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Thanks, Avantix; indeed I would leave the bracketed part out, and see my added note on "one airline only".
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Darin Fitzpatrick
: With avantix, in that there is no way to tell that a single airline is meant. In any case use "fewer" not "less."
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See my added note
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Andras Malatinszky
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Works in: Hungarian to English, English to Hungarian, German to English, and 2 more.
316 fewer passengers per airline
Given that the number of passengers is down by about 5,000 and assuming there are about 15 airlines servicing the airport (not an unreasonable assumption judging from a glance at their web site), the average drop in the number of passengers is around the 316 per airline.
Still, I think asking the client is a good idea.
Still, I think asking the client is a good idea.
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