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Jul 25, 2005 21:42
19 yrs ago
German term

Laienkelch

German to English Other History Hussite Wars
Hello all!
This was one of the demands of the Hussites (followers of Jan Hus who was executed for heresy during the Council of Constance). Does anyone know what it is?

Many thanks!

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Sharing the communion chalice with the laity

In the Catholic Church of the time, communion could be distributed only by priests from the chalice and only in the form of the Host. The Hussites demanded that communion be distributed in both species (host and wine) and that the communion chalice be shared with the laity (see URL for Moravian Church in America; the Moravians are the descendants of the Hussites), since the Hussites believed in the priesthood of all believers.

I don't think there's a simple term in English.
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agree Ann C Sherwin : cup or chalice
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agree Jan Vano
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agree BrigitteHilgner : That's it.
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agree Armorel Young : that's it - or "right of the laity to receive the chalice" if you want to put it more strongly
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agree Maria Ferstl
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agree Rachel Ward
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agree Mario Marcolin
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agree Siegfried Armbruster
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lay chalice

as in not administered by a priest
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Utraquists/Calixtines

Troubles broke out in various parts of Bohemia, and drove many Romanist priests from their parishes. Almost from the first the Hussites divided into two sections, though many minor divisions also arose among them. Shortly before his death Hus had accepted a doctrine preached during his absence by his adherents at Prague, namely that of Utraquism, or the obligation of the faithful to receive communion in both kinds (sub utraque specie). This doctrine became the watchword of the moderate Hussites known as the Utraquists or Calixtines, from the Latin calix (the chalice), in Czech kališníci (from kalich); while the more extreme Hussites soon became known as the Orphans (sirotci) or Taborites (táborité), from the city of Tábor that became their centre.



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Note added at 9 hrs 50 mins (2005-07-26 07:33:31 GMT)
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\"Utraquists\" is correct in my point of view.

Jon Hus in his later years had written letters contending that \"laymen should be permitted to take the wine at the Communion\". For this doctrine the Utraquists now fought tooth and nail. They \"emblazoned the Cup on their banners\". They were the aristocrats of the movement; they were led by the University dons; they were political rather than religious in their aims; they regarded Hus as a patriot; and, on the whole, they did not care much for moral and spiritual reforms.

\"Sharing the communion chalice with the laity\" is absolutely not wrong, but I think there should be an English equivalent.

\"Utraquists - People (mostly aristocrats) who believed the communion chalice should be shared with the laity\"
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disagree Jan Vano : it is not exactly so, wikipedia is not a reliable source
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lay chalice

The term is perfectly common in this theological/historical context. The background explanation provided by the other answerers are correct.

just enter "Hus lay chalice" and you'll get plenty of hits from good quality sources.
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