Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
drempelverlaging
English translation:
moral decline/lowering of standards
Added to glossary by
Deborah do Carmo
May 2, 2005 15:34
19 yrs ago
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Dutch term
Portugal
Lawyer-Linguist
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Dutch to English, Flemish to English, English
drempelverlaging
Dutch to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Annual Report
Hi,
This may be one of a few postings today the way things are progressing.:-)
I am busy with an annual report for a security firm that works in the supermarket sector.
The shrinkage figures for the year in question have been stated and the comment is made that the outlook for the next year is that a steady increase in the number of cases (of shoplifting etc) is expected.
The next section describes the reasons. I'd be interested to see how collagues understand "drumpelverlaging" in this context.
Oorzaken hiervan zijn de mindere economische tijden en *drempelverlaging* in de samenleving evenals minder personeel op winkelvloer die toezicht kan houden.
- do you think this is a tolerance threshold that is said to lower (i.e. in fact increased tolerance of this type of crime due to worsening economic conditions) or that people are less likely to hesitate these days before turning to shoplifting because of the economy? I'm finding the term a bit abstract to come to terms with at the moment.
TIA
Debbie
This may be one of a few postings today the way things are progressing.:-)
I am busy with an annual report for a security firm that works in the supermarket sector.
The shrinkage figures for the year in question have been stated and the comment is made that the outlook for the next year is that a steady increase in the number of cases (of shoplifting etc) is expected.
The next section describes the reasons. I'd be interested to see how collagues understand "drumpelverlaging" in this context.
Oorzaken hiervan zijn de mindere economische tijden en *drempelverlaging* in de samenleving evenals minder personeel op winkelvloer die toezicht kan houden.
- do you think this is a tolerance threshold that is said to lower (i.e. in fact increased tolerance of this type of crime due to worsening economic conditions) or that people are less likely to hesitate these days before turning to shoplifting because of the economy? I'm finding the term a bit abstract to come to terms with at the moment.
TIA
Debbie
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +5 | moral decline |
Christopher Smith (X)
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| 4 +1 | lowering social standards |
Fred ten Berge
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| 4 | lowering values of the society |
Zeljko Susljic
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| 4 | decreased moral threshold |
Pierre Grabowski (X)
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| 3 | lower inhibitory /inhibitive levels (in society) |
Jack den Haan
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Proposed translations
+5
8 mins
Christopher Smith (X)
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
Related KudoZ points
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15
Selected
moral decline
Hi Debbie, this is just a shot at what they may be referring to. 'Lowering of standards' may be another solution. Hope this helps!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
FullCircle (X)
: I'd go for moral decline
3 mins
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| agree |
Kate Hudson (X)
41 mins
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| agree |
jarry (X)
: Lowering of standards
1 hr
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| agree |
AllisonK (X)
: with JArry
2 hrs
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| neutral |
Fred ten Berge
: this 'shot' wijkt wel errug af van originele Nederlandse tekst, in negatieve zin
8 hrs
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Looking at your soluton, I can't see your problem.
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| agree |
Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
: moral decline
15 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks for all the prompt and excellent suggestions"
9 mins
Zeljko Susljic
Belgium
Belgium
Works in field
Belgium
Translations with an added value
Works in: Croatian to Dutch, Croatian to Flemish, Croatian to English, and 75 more.
lowering values of the society
It is this one: people are less likely to hesitate these days before turning to shoplifting because of the economy
9 mins
decreased moral threshold
I believe the message here is that the moral threshold is decreased, in other words: offenders are more likely to commit this kind of crime (due to changed morals, worsening economic circumstances,..)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Ljiljana Malovic
0 min
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| disagree |
Benno Groeneveld
: I'd go for "lower moral threshold"
5 hrs
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| neutral |
Fred ten Berge
: Enorm taalkundig bezwaar tegen 'decreased' versus ''decreasing' and the like!!
8 hrs
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26 mins
Jack den Haan
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
&
English
Works in field
Netherlands
Qualified engineer, translator & teacher
Native in: Dutch 
, English (Variants: UK, US)
Works in: Dutch to English, English to Dutch
Related KudoZ points
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72
lower inhibitory /inhibitive levels (in society)
I agree with peer interpretations that moral decline, lower moral values etc. in society is probably what is meant, but this IS a matter of interpretation. Perhaps this alternative is less interpretative. Trying to restrain that warning Calvanist finger, but having a bit of a problem with that ;-)
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Fred ten Berge
: would have agreed if original text were 'lager' and not 'verlaging' // Remember 'progressive aspects' of old Randolph Quirk, Zandvoort etc.?
8 hrs
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+1
8 hrs
Fred ten Berge
Native in Dutch
Perfection
Native in: Dutch
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English, Flemish to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
Dutch term (edited):
*drempelverlaging in de samenleving*
lowering social standards
Perhaps more literal translations, including the original metaphore are worth considering:
lowering the threshhold of (social) standards (of society)
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Note added at 8 hrs 41 mins (2005-05-03 00:15:36 GMT)
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Some slight attention to the progressive/continuous aspect of \'verlaging\' (versus \'verlaagde\') in the original Dutch text might not do any harm - -
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Note added at 8 hrs 46 mins (2005-05-03 00:20:17 GMT)
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IGM / EMF Declaration of Berlin
... Deregulating and lowering social standards do not automatically guarantee
social coherence and economic growth, but rather lead to economic crisis, ...
www.emf-fem.org/info_press/press/EN/PR050603_en.cfm - 33k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina\'s
some 60 googles for \'lowering social standards
lowering the threshhold of (social) standards (of society)
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Note added at 8 hrs 41 mins (2005-05-03 00:15:36 GMT)
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Some slight attention to the progressive/continuous aspect of \'verlaging\' (versus \'verlaagde\') in the original Dutch text might not do any harm - -
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Note added at 8 hrs 46 mins (2005-05-03 00:20:17 GMT)
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IGM / EMF Declaration of Berlin
... Deregulating and lowering social standards do not automatically guarantee
social coherence and economic growth, but rather lead to economic crisis, ...
www.emf-fem.org/info_press/press/EN/PR050603_en.cfm - 33k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina\'s
some 60 googles for \'lowering social standards
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Christopher Smith (X)
: you need an 'of' in this this to make it good English.
1 hr
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Always pleased to learn! Thanks for this hint! // Sorry for this mistake! / / We - like several others, perhaps no 'inboorlingen' - considered 'to lower' a transitive verb. Incorrect assumption?)
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AllisonK (X)
: with Christopher - see format used in Jarry's agree to Christopher's answer above........
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Many thanks, Allison! Especially also for your comment!!
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