Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
solidità della scrittura
English translation:
tightness of the score
Added to glossary by
Lorraine Buckley (X)
Nov 21, 2010 12:02
13 yrs ago
Italian term
solidità della scrittura
Italian to English
Art/Literary
Music
Recensione
This is part of a music critic's review
"un florilegio di brevi pezzi dall'espressività studiata, non superficiale, percepibile anche dalla solidità della scrittura"
I'm afraid I have very little music vocabulary - 'solidity of the score' sounds anything but artistic to me! Any help much appreciated!
"un florilegio di brevi pezzi dall'espressività studiata, non superficiale, percepibile anche dalla solidità della scrittura"
I'm afraid I have very little music vocabulary - 'solidity of the score' sounds anything but artistic to me! Any help much appreciated!
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +1 | tightness of the writing/score | fionn |
3 | concreteness / vigour of the score | Sara Maghini |
3 | self-assertiveness of the score | Barbara Carrara |
Change log
Nov 28, 2010 22:28: Lorraine Buckley (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1081837">Lorraine Buckley (X)'s</a> old entry - "solidità della scrittura"" to ""tightness of the writing/score""
Proposed translations
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tightness of the writing/score
I'm no expert either but this occurred to me as an option that would make sense.
Another possibility would be "the robustness of the writing/score", which gets a few relevant hits.
Another possibility would be "the robustness of the writing/score", which gets a few relevant hits.
Example sentence:
But with Bach, such is the tautness and tightness of the writing that if you
A central characteristic of his music is the tightness of the material.
Note from asker:
Thanks, Fionn. Would you say 'robustness of the score' fits now I have had the further input (see discussion)? |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Jim Tucker (X)
: Musicians and musicologists say this a lot.
5 days
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cheers Jim!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone for your input. It was difficult to choose, and in the end the author, a professional musician, opted for this answer.
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concreteness / vigour of the score
Just a couple of ideas, I tried to replace solidita' with some synonyms just to see what it might mean in this context, as it doesn't make much sense in Italian either!
Note from asker:
Thanks, Sara. I've put a question to the author while awaiting more input. |
1 day 21 hrs
self-assertiveness of the score
The way I read it, the Italian intends to focus on Beethoven's self-confidence as a composer, whose knowledge of his subject matter was based on solid ground/foundation, so to speak.
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Note added at 2 days3 hrs (2010-11-23 15:36:46 GMT)
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Hiya, Lorraine (nice pic!)
I feel the feedback from your client points in this direction. Beethoven showed his genius even on (apparently) less demanding scores. If you find self-assertiveness too strong, self-confidence or self-assuredness might work. I'd go for something remarking his mastery over composition.
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Note added at 2 days3 hrs (2010-11-23 15:36:46 GMT)
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Hiya, Lorraine (nice pic!)
I feel the feedback from your client points in this direction. Beethoven showed his genius even on (apparently) less demanding scores. If you find self-assertiveness too strong, self-confidence or self-assuredness might work. I'd go for something remarking his mastery over composition.
Note from asker:
Barbara - thanks for this. Would you confirm this also in view of the note I just added to the discussion? |
Discussion
"Classic style, up to and including Beethoven, is more about rhythm and time (note groupings and rests), dramatic tension, periodic phrases, and structure (sonata form). Beethoven's harmony is rather simple. I think it's his energy and structural tightness (as well as his position standing at the threshold of the romantic era, with the expansion of the pianoforte to an instrument simulating an entire orchestra) that make him great." (http://pianosociety.com/new/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3601...
Robustness might work, but perhaps it sounds too punchy for the context?
E' un complimento al genio di Beethoven, insomma".
I am still short on ideas as to how to express in musically-acceptable terms, the 'fluidità/maestria/solidità/coerenza'. Any further suggestions/confirmation (perhaps of self-confidence?) much appreciated.