Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
flourish, bloom, thrive
Catalan translation:
prosperar
Added to glossary by
Sheila Hardie
Oct 21, 2004 09:32
22 yrs ago
English term
flourish, bloom, thrive
Topic: photography
...presents an exhibition that, ***through an art form that bloomed during the twentieth century,*** prosposes fundamental concepts about culture, photograpgy and icons in the twenty-first...
I don't need an exact translation, just writing a text based on this idea. The problem (I think) with "va florir" is that it also means to get moldy, to rot and that obviously is not the idea. I need a phrase it Catalan that means to bloom or better yet: to come into one's own.
Thanks!
...presents an exhibition that, ***through an art form that bloomed during the twentieth century,*** prosposes fundamental concepts about culture, photograpgy and icons in the twenty-first...
I don't need an exact translation, just writing a text based on this idea. The problem (I think) with "va florir" is that it also means to get moldy, to rot and that obviously is not the idea. I need a phrase it Catalan that means to bloom or better yet: to come into one's own.
Thanks!
Proposed translations
(Catalan)
| 3 +3 | prosperar |
Sheila Hardie
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| 5 +2 | florir |
Lluís Gonzàlez
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| 4 | desenvolupar-se |
Teresa Miret
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Proposed translations
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3 mins
Sheila Hardie
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Works in: Catalan to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
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prosperar
That's the first verb that I could think of for this context. But I am sure you will get lost of other suggestions.
HTH
Sheila
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\'lots of\' - sorry for the typo :-))
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prosperar
[s. XIV; del ll. prosperare, íd.]
v 1 tr Fer pròsper, donar prosperitat a algú o a alguna cosa. Que Déu us prosperi.
2 intr Créixer feliçment, esdevenir pròsper. El comerç i la indústria prosperen en temps de pau. Les plantes prosperen en aquest terreny.
http://www.grec.net/cgibin/lexicx.pgm
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I just wanted to add that I agree with Lluís - florir sounds fine to me too. However, I just suggested \'prosperar\' in case you were looking for an alternative.
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florir
[s. XIV; del ll. td. florire, ll. cl. florere, íd.]
v 1 intr BOT 1 Fer flor les plantes.
2 Aparèixer les flors. Les roses floreixen per l\'abril.
2 intr fig 1 Prosperar, estar en ple vigor. Aquell segle floriren totes les arts. Hi floreixen l\'agricultura, el comerç i la indústria.
2 Aparèixer, produir-se una cosa agradosa. Un somriure li florí dels llavis. L\'amor florí de seguida entre ells dos.
3 Viure una persona i produir obres en una època o un país determinat. Aquell poeta florí al segle XV.
3 pron 1 BOT Cobrir-se una cosa de floridura.
2 fig Neguitejar-se, consumir-se. Ens vam florir esperant-los.
HOM: florí.
HTH
Sheila
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\'lots of\' - sorry for the typo :-))
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Note added at 8 mins (2004-10-21 09:40:39 GMT)
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prosperar
[s. XIV; del ll. prosperare, íd.]
v 1 tr Fer pròsper, donar prosperitat a algú o a alguna cosa. Que Déu us prosperi.
2 intr Créixer feliçment, esdevenir pròsper. El comerç i la indústria prosperen en temps de pau. Les plantes prosperen en aquest terreny.
http://www.grec.net/cgibin/lexicx.pgm
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Note added at 12 mins (2004-10-21 09:44:16 GMT)
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I just wanted to add that I agree with Lluís - florir sounds fine to me too. However, I just suggested \'prosperar\' in case you were looking for an alternative.
portal enciclopèdia catalana
plana principal Abreviatures nova cerca
Ressenya
Comprar-lo Comprar-lo
Hipertext
florir
[s. XIV; del ll. td. florire, ll. cl. florere, íd.]
v 1 intr BOT 1 Fer flor les plantes.
2 Aparèixer les flors. Les roses floreixen per l\'abril.
2 intr fig 1 Prosperar, estar en ple vigor. Aquell segle floriren totes les arts. Hi floreixen l\'agricultura, el comerç i la indústria.
2 Aparèixer, produir-se una cosa agradosa. Un somriure li florí dels llavis. L\'amor florí de seguida entre ells dos.
3 Viure una persona i produir obres en una època o un país determinat. Aquell poeta florí al segle XV.
3 pron 1 BOT Cobrir-se una cosa de floridura.
2 fig Neguitejar-se, consumir-se. Ens vam florir esperant-los.
HOM: florí.
Peer comment(s):
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Maria Rosich Andreu
: a mi tampoc no m'agrada florir, aquí. Trobo que sona com un calc, i que 'prosperar' diu tot el que ha de dir
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gràcies, Maria:-)
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Teresa Miret
: «Florir» és correcte, però m'agrada més «prosperar».
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gràcies, tessamm:-)
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Miquel Ferré Grau
: Els meus companys tenen raó, tant “florir” com “prosperar” són correctes. Cada traductor escull el que més li agrada. A mi, per exemple, m'agrada més "florir".
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gràcies, Miquel:-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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7 mins
Lluís Gonzàlez
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Works in: Italian to Catalan, Spanish to Catalan, English to Catalan, and 4 more.
florir
This translation resumes simply and perfectly what you seek. The sentences you write would be: "mitjançant una forma d'art que va florir durant el segle XX".
If you feel uncortable with "florir", use "sorgir" or "aparèixer".
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sorry: uncortable = unconfortable (oops! lapsus calami)
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Don\'t worry about \"florir\". Its secondary meaning (that of \"get moldy\") is expressed with its reflexive form (\"florir-se\"), so you don\'t get confused when using \"florir\" and not \"florir-se\": el roser FLOREIX \'the roses bloom\' / el pa ES FLOREIX \'the bread gets moldy\'
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Don\'t worry about \"florir\". Its secondary meaning (that of \"get moldy\") is expressed with its reflexive form (\"florir-se\"), so you don\'t get confused when using \"florir\" and not \"florir-se\": el roser FLOREIX \'the roses bloom\' / el pa ES FLOREIX \'the bread gets moldy\'
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Note added at 16 mins (2004-10-21 09:48:44 GMT)
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Don\'t worry about \"florir\". Its secondary meaning (that of \"get moldy\") is expressed with its reflexive form (\"florir-se\"), so you don\'t get confused when using \"florir\" and not \"florir-se\": el roser FLOREIX \'the roses bloom\' / el pa ES FLOREIX \'the bread gets moldy\'
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sorry: uncortable = unconfortable (oops! lapsus calami)
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Note added at 5 hrs 2 mins (2004-10-21 14:34:54 GMT)
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I agree with you, Madeline. \"Prosperar\" sounds cold. I recommend anyway \"florir\".
If you feel uncortable with "florir", use "sorgir" or "aparèixer".
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Note added at 8 mins (2004-10-21 09:40:33 GMT)
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sorry: uncortable = unconfortable (oops! lapsus calami)
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Note added at 14 mins (2004-10-21 09:46:15 GMT)
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Don\'t worry about \"florir\". Its secondary meaning (that of \"get moldy\") is expressed with its reflexive form (\"florir-se\"), so you don\'t get confused when using \"florir\" and not \"florir-se\": el roser FLOREIX \'the roses bloom\' / el pa ES FLOREIX \'the bread gets moldy\'
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Note added at 16 mins (2004-10-21 09:48:34 GMT)
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Don\'t worry about \"florir\". Its secondary meaning (that of \"get moldy\") is expressed with its reflexive form (\"florir-se\"), so you don\'t get confused when using \"florir\" and not \"florir-se\": el roser FLOREIX \'the roses bloom\' / el pa ES FLOREIX \'the bread gets moldy\'
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Note added at 16 mins (2004-10-21 09:48:44 GMT)
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Don\'t worry about \"florir\". Its secondary meaning (that of \"get moldy\") is expressed with its reflexive form (\"florir-se\"), so you don\'t get confused when using \"florir\" and not \"florir-se\": el roser FLOREIX \'the roses bloom\' / el pa ES FLOREIX \'the bread gets moldy\'
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Note added at 16 mins (2004-10-21 09:48:50 GMT)
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sorry: uncortable = unconfortable (oops! lapsus calami)
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Note added at 5 hrs 2 mins (2004-10-21 14:34:54 GMT)
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I agree with you, Madeline. \"Prosperar\" sounds cold. I recommend anyway \"florir\".
Peer comment(s):
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Teresa Miret
: També és correcte.
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Miquel Ferré Grau
: D’acord amb “florir”. No tant amb “sorgir” o “aparèixer” perquè aquests mots no impliquen un resultat d’èxit, (Un moviment o art pot sorgir o aparèixer i resultar un fracàs). En canvi, "florir" o "prosperar" sí que indiquen un resultat d'èxit.
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Estic d'acord amb tu. M'agrada més "florir"... si són roses, floriran!
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Teresa Miret
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Native in: Catalan , Spanish
Works in: English to Catalan, English to Spanish, French to Catalan, and 5 more.
desenvolupar-se
Another option, which is near to "come into one's one".
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