Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
eender welke . . .
English translation:
any other/ any ( xxx whatsoever)
Added to glossary by
bgranger
Apr 10, 2005 18:32
19 yrs ago
Dutch term
eender welke . . .
Non-PRO
Dutch to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
eender
'Eender' means 'the same', 'alike', 'equal'.
But what would be a fine way of putting this construction in English? Here are a couple of examples of it:
. . . dat ze onder geen enkel beding mogen overgemaakt worden aan eender welke persoon of eender welk bedrijf . . .
. . . schade berokkend aan eender welke eigendom, toebehorend aan derden . . .
Thanks again!
Brian
But what would be a fine way of putting this construction in English? Here are a couple of examples of it:
. . . dat ze onder geen enkel beding mogen overgemaakt worden aan eender welke persoon of eender welk bedrijf . . .
. . . schade berokkend aan eender welke eigendom, toebehorend aan derden . . .
Thanks again!
Brian
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | any other/ any ( xxx whatsoever) |
Deborah do Carmo
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| 4 | no matter which/who |
Fred ten Berge
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Proposed translations
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Deborah do Carmo
Portugal
Portugal
Native in English
Specializes in field
Portugal
Lawyer-Linguist
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Dutch to English, Flemish to English, English
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any other/ any ( xxx whatsoever)
Let me sort out my mess:
First example: any other
Second example: any / any (property) whatsoever
Once welke is there there isn't a definer..hmmmm way to go Debbie (long day)
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cause damage to any property (whatsoever) belonging to third parties....
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first example could also read: \"any other person or company\" or \"any person or company whatsoever\" - wouldn\'t go for the second choice here though as you have \"enkel beding\" earlier in the sentence.
I need some sleep, it\'s obvious..;-))
Keep well
First example: any other
Second example: any / any (property) whatsoever
Once welke is there there isn't a definer..hmmmm way to go Debbie (long day)
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cause damage to any property (whatsoever) belonging to third parties....
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Note added at 35 mins (2005-04-10 19:08:10 GMT)
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first example could also read: \"any other person or company\" or \"any person or company whatsoever\" - wouldn\'t go for the second choice here though as you have \"enkel beding\" earlier in the sentence.
I need some sleep, it\'s obvious..;-))
Keep well
Peer comment(s):
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Fred ten Berge
: no doubt 'whatsoever' fits! // 'any' as well!
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Thanks Fred
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| agree |
Iris70
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tks Iris
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thank you again!"
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Fred ten Berge
Native in Dutch
Specializes in field
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Native in: Dutch 
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English, Flemish to English, and 1 more.
no matter which/who
just the simple rendering I'd consider as being likely - - -
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omschreven in Nederlands: het doet er niet toe wie(of wat)
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hoewel mijn confidence level - in view of Debby\'s legal expertice - zakt onder de \'twee\', toch nog even (niet dat ik door wil drammen) ter overweging:
1) - - that under no condition whattoever they/these may be transferred to no matter which person or company, - -
2) - - damage inflicted/caused to no matter which property, belonging to third party.
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grondbetekenis van \'eender\' in DERGELIJKE samenhang blijkt o.a. uit voorbeelden in de GvD:
ik maak geen verschil/ heb geen voorkeur / het is me om het even
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grondbetekenis van \'eender\' in DERGELIJKE samenhang blijkt o.a. uit voorbeelden in de GvD:
ik maak geen verschil/ heb geen voorkeur / het is me om het even
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Note added at 32 mins (2005-04-10 19:04:48 GMT)
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omschreven in Nederlands: het doet er niet toe wie(of wat)
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Note added at 7 hrs 25 mins (2005-04-11 01:58:22 GMT)
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hoewel mijn confidence level - in view of Debby\'s legal expertice - zakt onder de \'twee\', toch nog even (niet dat ik door wil drammen) ter overweging:
1) - - that under no condition whattoever they/these may be transferred to no matter which person or company, - -
2) - - damage inflicted/caused to no matter which property, belonging to third party.
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Note added at 7 hrs 32 mins (2005-04-11 02:05:31 GMT)
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grondbetekenis van \'eender\' in DERGELIJKE samenhang blijkt o.a. uit voorbeelden in de GvD:
ik maak geen verschil/ heb geen voorkeur / het is me om het even
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Note added at 7 hrs 32 mins (2005-04-11 02:05:32 GMT)
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grondbetekenis van \'eender\' in DERGELIJKE samenhang blijkt o.a. uit voorbeelden in de GvD:
ik maak geen verschil/ heb geen voorkeur / het is me om het even
Discussion
The Client and the Contractor promise that all documents of the Agreement are to be held confidential and that they under no condition whatsoever may be transferred to any other person or any other company, unless (it has been) specified otherwise in the Agreement.
De Bouwheer en de Aannemer verbinden er zich toe dat alle documenten van de Overeenkomst vertrouwelijk gehouden worden en dat ze onder geen enkel beding mogen overgemaakt worden aan eender welke persoon of eender welk bedrijf, tenzij anders in de Overeenkomst is bepaald.
It seems that your first thought on it was closer, as the company and person have not been specified (which would then be 'such').
Brian