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premier bureau des hypothèques

English translation: Principal mortgage registry

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French term or phrase:premier bureau des hypothèques
English translation:Principal mortgage registry
Entered by: Kerensa Cracknell

06:45 Jul 26, 2008
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Real Estate
French term or phrase: premier bureau des hypothèques
Would one say "main/primary mortages office in Versailles" for this? I looked up "hypothèque" and got "mortgage" but am unsure of what the proper term should be for this type of "bureau".
The context is a sentence referring to a deed that was "...publiée au premier bureau des hypothèques de Versailles on [date]."
Kerensa Cracknell
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:50
Principal mortgage registry
Explanation:
"Service de la direction générale des impôts qui gère le fichier immobilier. Ce fichier est quotidiennement mis à jour grâce aux notaires qui déposent les actes concernant toutes les mutations (vente, donation, succession, etc.). C’est grâce à ce service que l’on connaît le propriétaire de chaque bien ainsi que son état hypothécaire."
http://www.pap.fr/_bureau-hypotheques.htm

IATE has "land registry" or "mortgage registry" I think the latter is more precise.



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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-07-26 09:30:26 GMT)
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Their support for "mortgage registry" cites Le Docte,Legal Dict.,Oyez,Brussels,1978

Looking at their support for "land registry" shows that they were actually supporting different terms in French: "cadastre et bureau de conservation des hypothèques" and "bureau du registre foncier".
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B D Finch
France
Local time: 03:50
Grading comment
Thanks - this is a great help.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2Principal mortgage registry
B D Finch
4the first Land Charge Registry
Lanna Castellano
4 -3the number one address for mortgages (to be followed by office´s name and address)
Ellen Kraus


  

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -3
the number one address for mortgages (to be followed by office´s name and address)


Explanation:
Should my assumption in this context be correct, the high confidence level is justified.

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Note added at 2 Stunden (2008-07-26 08:52:53 GMT)
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or the address number one for ....

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 03:50
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  B D Finch: Your assumption and confidence level are both wrong. This is a public institution.
35 mins
disagree  Anthony Lines (X): Principal Land Registry
1 hr
disagree  French2English: surely no 'assumption' should ever have a high confidence level!
1051 days
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Principal mortgage registry


Explanation:
"Service de la direction générale des impôts qui gère le fichier immobilier. Ce fichier est quotidiennement mis à jour grâce aux notaires qui déposent les actes concernant toutes les mutations (vente, donation, succession, etc.). C’est grâce à ce service que l’on connaît le propriétaire de chaque bien ainsi que son état hypothécaire."
http://www.pap.fr/_bureau-hypotheques.htm

IATE has "land registry" or "mortgage registry" I think the latter is more precise.



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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-07-26 09:30:26 GMT)
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Their support for "mortgage registry" cites Le Docte,Legal Dict.,Oyez,Brussels,1978

Looking at their support for "land registry" shows that they were actually supporting different terms in French: "cadastre et bureau de conservation des hypothèques" and "bureau du registre foncier".


    Reference: http://www.pap.fr/_bureau-hypotheques.htm
B D Finch
France
Local time: 03:50
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 271
Grading comment
Thanks - this is a great help.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  cmwilliams (X)
53 mins
  -> Thanks cmw.
agree  Younes Marouf: Premier est utilisé quand il y a deux bureaux ou plus, la traduction devrait être "First Registry Office"
3563 days
  -> Thanks Younes, but afraid "First Registry Office" would be wrong. In Britain, the "Registry Office" is the popular name for the Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages! Also, "First" wouldn't be correct in an English context.
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1 day 5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the first Land Charge Registry


Explanation:
'charges' is a broader term - covering various liens on property - than 'mortgages'.
The website below defines such charges.

Bridge's French-English legal dictionary gives both - Mortgage and Land Charge Registry.


    Reference: http://www.oadby-wigston.gov.uk/Home/Legal%20and%20Licensing...
Lanna Castellano
Local time: 02:50
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
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