Sep 11, 2008 09:59
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English term

Non-formal v/s informal

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Is there really a difference between the two?

e.g. Non-formal education/ informal education

If it is not formal then it is informal. So where does non-formal fit in?

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Ritu Bhanot (asker) Sep 11, 2008:
Thanks Thanks a lot for your help. Unfortunately, points can not be divided...
Ritu Bhanot (asker) Sep 11, 2008:
Looks like it is ok Here's what I found:
REFINE – Recognizing Formal, Informal and Non-formal Education
Web-site: http://www.eucen.org/
Document: www.eucen.org/REFINE/CountryFinalReports/EAEAdetaireportsAE...
Ritu Bhanot (asker) Sep 11, 2008:
David: it's ok. I understood what you wanted to say :-)
David Hollywood Sep 11, 2008:
the author must see a difference and let's see what others have to say on the subject :)
David Hollywood Sep 11, 2008:
oops (early in the morning here and should read "indiscriminately" of course ... only on my second cup of tea lol)
Ritu Bhanot (asker) Sep 11, 2008:
Sounds strange Don't you think so?
Ritu Bhanot (asker) Sep 11, 2008:
Example: It helps one improve skills acquired through formal, non-formal and informal education.
David Hollywood Sep 11, 2008:
bottom line ... I think there's no problem about using both terms indiscrimitately and your context will lead you along :)
David Hollywood Sep 11, 2008:
can you give the sentence?
Ritu Bhanot (asker) Sep 11, 2008:
Agree: no real difference But what do you do if both are used in the same sentence? It is repetitive...

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possible distinction

This should be confirmed by means of further research, but a *possible* explanation is:

formal education: education provided by / obtained in an educational system ('traditional' primary / secondary / tertiary school system) with curricula, instruction methods, grading methods, etc.) that are (at least partially) defined and monitored externally (e.g. by school boards and regulatory authorities)

non-formal education: training and education provided 'ad hoc' -- i.e. outside the scope of a formal educational system by means of specific, targeted courses, training programs, etc. with no externally defined curricula, standards, methods, etc. but usually with internally defined curricula, standards, methods, etc.

informal education: on-the-job learning, learning by doing, etc. with no defined curricula, methods, etc.
Peer comment(s):

agree Sheila Wilson : It makes sense, Ken, although I can't say I'm 100% sure
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agree Vlad Shamail (X)
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no real difference

"non-formal" sounds more technical so it's up to you and your context :)
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I've actually never heard the word non-formal used anywhere

As you have said, if it's not formal, then it is informal. Perhaps non-formal is used in British English, but I've never heard it in an American English context. With the sentence you provided, I tend to think that the term suggests anything learned which was not taught within the four walls of a classroom. I'm just throwing this out there for you to consider. Good luck!
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Reference comments

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Reference:

There is difference between formal, informal and non-formal learning in EU contexts. For a full explanation and definitions, please see the following link, 1st footnote, second page.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2...

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Note added at 9 hrs (2008-09-11 19:03:59 GMT) Post-grading
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BTW, I apologize for posting this reference despite the fact that I am not a native speaker :-)
Note from asker:
Thanks. Life is a learning process. Native speaker or not you gave me an important information. Thanks.
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