Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

confectionneur

English translation:

[curtains and] soft furnishings maker

Added to glossary by Lavinia Pirlog
Sep 2, 2012 10:43
11 yrs ago
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French term

confectionneur

Non-PRO French to English Bus/Financial Human Resources professions
Retouche/Confection
Retoucheur très qualifié; retoucheur-vendeur qualifié; confectionneur d'ameublement
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Sep 2, 2012 11:40: Alan Douglas (X) changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

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PRO (1): Yolanda Broad

Non-PRO (3): Nikki Scott-Despaigne, Sheila Wilson, Alan Douglas (X)

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Discussion

Tony M Sep 2, 2012:
Not so sure, Nikki Note that it is associated in Asker's context with 'retouche', which in my book is mending (in the sense of garments etc.) — I can't help thinking this is very much the fabric-based side of furnishings?

Or is it 'furniture repairs' in the much wider sense? I hardly think so here, it would be an odd use of 'retouche', non ?
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Sep 2, 2012:
Just wondering As the term "ameublement" can describe not just the fabric coverings but also the furniture, I was wondering precisely what the term "ameublement" means here. I think we need to know that before searching around for a UK/US term.

I'm currently reading through the official CODES ROME for the "métiers"... makes for stimulating reading on a SUnday afternoon!

Maybe the CODES APE might come in handy too....

Looked through them and have concluded that it includes household furniture and furnishings. New suggestion in post. As I read it, it covers therefore covers the work of upholsterers, furniture and cabinet makers.
Alan Douglas (X) Sep 2, 2012:
Confectionneur = maker To be found in any dictionnary. Usually in relation to the clothing industry. In this instance, as Tony rightly says, the term should be "confectionneur d'ameublement". "Ameublement" refers to interior fabric furnishings including upholstery, cushions, curtains, fabric blinds, bed linens etc., for which the usual term in English is "soft furnishings", which may or not be expanded to make clear that more than upholstered furniture is included. Hence the complete term could be translated as "(curtains, blinds and) soft furnishings maker". See: http://www.scavenger.net/product.php?productid=1857
Tony M Sep 2, 2012:
To get the right equivalent job title I think you'll probably need to consider the expression as a whole: "confectionneur d'ameublement"

As a colleague has pointed out, there also exists the job name 'tapissier' — the way you translate the question term may depend on whether or not you also have this alternative/related term in your document?

Proposed translations

12 hrs
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[curtains and] soft furnishings maker

Definitely as Alan said.
I'd keep the 'curtains' part.
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1 hr

(furniture) maker

furniture maker:
cabinet maker, upholsterer
Peer comment(s):

disagree Alan Douglas (X) : A "furniture maker" is a fabricant de mobilier; a "cabinet-maker" is an ébénisté and an upholsterer is a tapissier(ère).
11 mins
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : There are offcial definitions and definitions we use every day which do not necessarily match. "Ameublement" includes the making of items of furniture and includes upholstery too.
1 hr
Thank you, Nikki.
agree cc in nyc : sounds right to me (US English)
6 hrs
Thank you.
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20 mins

upholsterer (UK), (furniture) outfitter (US?)

GDT

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Note added at 22 mins (2012-09-02 11:06:32 GMT)
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GDT = granddictionnaire.com (Canada) for "outfitter". Just found hits for US for "furniture outfitter".

Otherwise I imagine Wikipedia has "upholstery" for the profession, thus "upholsterer" for the individual.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-09-02 12:49:24 GMT)
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Outfitters is closer to supplier of furniture and "upholsterer" (UK) perhaps too general as although it covers the covers (fabric, elather) etc, padding, springs and so on I agree that "confectionneur d'ameublement" probably relates to "furnishings" alone.

There is probably an official definition for this term as there have been for others posted by Lavinia recently.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-09-02 12:58:40 GMT)
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In the Codes ROME http://www.romeurope.org/IMG/pdf/Analyse_des_Codes_ROME_des_...

"ammeublement" can mean furniture, furnishings :

MATÉRIAUX SOUPLES, BOIS, INDUSTRIES GRAPHIQUES (INDUSTRIES LÉGÈRES)
46311 Opérateur de sciage-débit
46321 Conducteur de machine de fabricaion des industries de l'ameublement et du bois (et maté-riaux associés)
46322 Façonneur bois et matériaux associés (production de série)
46323 Monteur d'ouvrages en bois et matériaux associés (production de série)
47331 Réalisateur d'ouvrages en bois et matériaux associés
51134 Agent d'encadrement des industries de l'ameublement et du bois
52243 Technicien des industries de l'ameublement et du bois


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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-09-02 13:04:08 GMT)
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http://www.isee.nc/bcm/telechargement/nomenclature.pdf

05 AMEUBLEMENT, EQUIPEMENT MENAGER ET ENTRETIEN COURANT DE LA MAISON
051 MEUBLES, ARTICLES DE
DÉCO, TAPIS ET REVÊTEMENTS
ET RÉPARATION
0511 Meubles, articles d’ameublement et de décoration 05111015 Armoire, bahut, buffet, commode, coiffeuse, bibliothèque, bureau, etc
05111025 Table, salle à manger, chaise, banc, tabouret
05111035 Canapé, fauteuil, salon,pouf
05111045 Etagères, petit mobilier de rangement
05111055 Placards, dressing
05111 Meubles 051110 Meubles 05111065 Lit, sommier, matelas, tatami
05111075 Mobilier acheté en lot: cuisine équipée, etc
05111085 Mobilier de jardin (yc abri de jardin, chapiteau)
05111086 Meubles pour bébé: berceau, chaise haute, parc, etc
05111095 Autres meubles
05112 Articles d'ameublement 051120 Articles d'ameublement
05112015 Luminaires : lustres, lampadaires, globes et lampes de chevet
05112025 Cendriers, miroirs, bougeoirs, etc, bibelots divers
05112035 Autres articles d'ameublement
05113 Articles de décoration 051130 Articles de décoration
05113015 Sculptures, tableaux, objets d'art
05113025 Paravents, cloisons extensibles, canisse d'isolation
05113035 Autres articles de décoration
0512 Tapis et autres revêtements de sol
051210 Tapis et autres revêtements de sol
05121035 Moquette
05121 Tapis et autres revêtements
de sol
05121045 Tapis
05121055 Parquet
05121065 Tapisserie
05121075 Natte
0514 Répar. & articles meubles, & revêtements sol
05141 Répar. de meubles, d'articles
d'ameublement et revêtements de sol
051410 Réparation de meubles, d'articles
d'ameublement et de revêtements de sol
05141015 Réparation de meubles, d'articles d'ameublement et de revê-
tements de sol

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-09-02 13:05:18 GMT)
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And then fabrics for all that at section 0522... of the same ref.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-09-02 13:07:14 GMT)
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Hey, maybe it can and does cover "furniture and furnishings" after all?????

"MAKER OF HOUSEHOLD FURNITURE AND FURNISHINGS"

C'est mon dernier mot Jean-Pierre...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Grzegorz Mizera : upholsterer = tapissier
4 mins
I know that an "upholsterer" is "tapisseur", yes, you are right. "Upholsterer" covers padding, springs etc but does also the making and fitting of furniture covers. It may be too general for "confectionneur d'ameublement".
neutral Tony M : Beware of 'outfitter', since that can be for clothing (like 'gents outfitter') — yes, in that sense, it would be a fitter-out', eh?
47 mins
Outfitter is not right for UK here, as I indicate. But it is also wrong for the US, as it means "outfit" as in "supply"!
disagree Alan Douglas (X) : "Upholsterer" is only part of the story. "0utfitter" only refers to clothing, as in "gentleman's outfitter".
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"furniture outfitter" for US exists, but it is wrong here as it applies to supplier and fitting into the space
neutral cc in nyc : "upholsterer" sounds too narrow to me, and "outfitter" just sounds weird here, but maybe that's just me
7 hrs
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8 hrs

Architech / Designer

Don't make the sentence so complicated just translate !!
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : But that's quite different from the meaning of 'confectionneur'
26 mins
disagree Sheila Wilson : Presuming you mean architecT or designer, those don't describe someone who's a "maker".
1 day 1 hr
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