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French term or phrase:
aujourd\'hui en
English translation:
as of today /currently (the horizon...)
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Jeanne Zang
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L'horizon pris en compte pour des industries est aujourd'hui en 2030.
Does this mean between now and 2030?
Does this mean between now and 2030?
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as of today /currently (the horizon...)
the sentence has to be turned around I think...
As of today/ currently the horizon (...) is 2030
As of today/ currently the horizon (...) is 2030
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Tony M
: Exactly! If you read it as 'aujourd'hui, l'horizon est en 2030' the meaning is immediately obvious
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thanks Tony! The thing is there should be commas, a pause in the speech... I have very much the feeling it's a transcription of a speech...
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polyglot45
: not "as of today". Currently is OK. It really means "at this moment in time", "today", "at present", "these days", the TIME horizon (well-known concept!) they are working to is 2030 - i.e. planning in relation to that date
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Thank you ! I "hear what you are saying" however IRL I have heard British people saying "AOT" in the sense of "right now" "as we speak""
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Laurette Tassin
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Thank you !
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B D Finch
: currently
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Merci Barbara !
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Comment: "Thanks for the meaning and thanks to Nikki for some useful reformulations. I was thrown off here by expressions like "d'aujourd'hui en huit.""
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Si on se place en 2030 ...
Avec plus de contexte, ce serait plus facile de donner une meilleure réponse ... Ça ne veut PAS dire 'between now and 2030'. On se place en 2030.
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patrickfor
: pas necessairement.ce peut être ce qu'il faut avoir fait au plus tard en 2030
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Merci, Patrick ...
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Tony M
: The 'horizon' means the timescale towards which they are working / looking; IOW, already today, we are planning as far ahead as 2030. (etc.)
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now in
No, it doesn't mean between now and 2030 - it's referring to the year 2030 as the year in which the industries will have their 'horizon'.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2015-09-03 01:56:25 GMT)
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just realised that 'horizon' sounds very vague the way I've written it - I mean the year they are working towards.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2015-09-03 01:56:25 GMT)
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just realised that 'horizon' sounds very vague the way I've written it - I mean the year they are working towards.
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Tony M
: That would be very confusing, suggesting that 'now', the present day, is already 2030! Unless we're in Star Trek...
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Nowadays....
the time horizon targeted by companies is (that of) 2030
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Leave it out and reformulate
Jeanne,
To answer your question "Does this mean between now and 2030?", my short answer would be no, it does not. I think Patrick has the right meaning.
My post is more for a suggested reformulation. Once you have grasped the meaning, then you can reformulate the phrase in ways which avoid the necessity to translate every word of the original.
"L'horizon pris en compte pour des industries est aujourd'hui en 2030."
2030 is the horizon for industries today.
The horizon is currently 2030 for industries.
Industries currently set their sights on / (look ahead to) 2030.
The current time target for industry is 2030.
Etc. It might be worht considering using the progressive form of the present rather than the indicative.
To answer your question "Does this mean between now and 2030?", my short answer would be no, it does not. I think Patrick has the right meaning.
My post is more for a suggested reformulation. Once you have grasped the meaning, then you can reformulate the phrase in ways which avoid the necessity to translate every word of the original.
"L'horizon pris en compte pour des industries est aujourd'hui en 2030."
2030 is the horizon for industries today.
The horizon is currently 2030 for industries.
Industries currently set their sights on / (look ahead to) 2030.
The current time target for industry is 2030.
Etc. It might be worht considering using the progressive form of the present rather than the indicative.
Discussion
aujourd'hui l'horizon (pris en compte pour des industries) est en 2030.
si on suppose que la phrase est récente cela veut dire qu'aujourd'hui l'horizon est à 15 ans, peut-être qu'hier (il y a 10 ans) il était à 20 ans ou peut-être à 10 ans seulement... Ce "aujourd'hui" signifie que ce que qu'on prévoyait avant comme horizon n'était pas le même.
... et bien entendu si aujourd'hui les entreprises doivent avoit déménagé à l'horizon 2030 cela signifie qu'elles auront déménagé en 2030 pas après.
si on se place à l'horizon 2030 en termes d'actions à accomplir ce sont toutes les actions qui faudra faire AVANT 2030 pas APRÈS 2030 !
(today companies are planning ahead in relation to 2030)