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maitrise

English translation: command

14:17 Sep 13, 2004
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Management
French term or phrase: maitrise
maitrise d'une ou plusieurs techniques. a utiliser dans une description de poste
"le titulaire doit avoir une maitrise totale de l'ensemble de competences..."
daa
Local time: 07:15
English translation:command
Explanation:
the candidate/applicant must have total command of all of the skills (required for this position, etc.).

or

the candidate/applicant must possess all of the skills (required for this position, etc.).


or

the candidate/applicant must have full mastery of the skills (required for this position, etc.).
Selected response from:

Michael McCain (X)
France
Local time: 07:15
Grading comment
if excellentknowledge and significant experience are added to "strong command, it could be OK ? thanks
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +4expertise
Michele Fauble
4 +3command
Michael McCain (X)
4 +2must possess a total mastery of all of the/these skills
RHELLER
4 +2fully versed in/ familiar with/ skilled
jarry (X)
5 +1must master one or more of these skills
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
4 +1mastery
Marian Greenfield
4 +1...must thoroughly/deeply master this skillset
Michel A.
4must be in full possession of all these skills
CMJ_Trans (X)


  

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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
mastery


Explanation:
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Marian Greenfield
Local time: 01:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 10
Grading comment
doesn't seem naturally English. too borrowed from the French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  RHELLER
0 min
  -> thanks
agree  Richard Benham: Yeah, it works. The only reason to avoid it is the standard irrational "faux-ami-phobia".
2 hrs
  -> I agree... thanks
disagree  jarry (X): Anglo-saxons prefer the 'understatement' and would never 'claim to 'know it all' as implied by the term "full mastery".
3 hrs
  -> I don't about Brits... but we Murricans are not known for understatement... especially those of us from the NY Metropolitan region...
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Comment: doesn't seem naturally English. too borrowed from the French

2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
must possess a total mastery of all of the/these skills


Explanation:
literal

RHELLER
United States
Local time: 23:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Richard Benham: See my note to Marian's answer. Same applies here.
2 hrs
  -> thanks Richard!
agree  Adriana Adarve (X)
12 hrs
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
...must thoroughly/deeply master this skillset


Explanation:
- must've a perfect command of this skillset

Michel A.
Local time: 01:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 18

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Richard Benham: "Thoroughly master" is good, "deeply" less so. "Skillset" is jargon: why not :these skills"? "Have" can only be reduced to "'ve" when it's an auxiliary, not when it's used as a verb in its own right. Cheers.//HR itself is jargon for "personnel management"
2 hrs
  -> Merci Richard, mais skillset est employé en HR et dans les PA en permanence, oui c du jargon :-)
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
command


Explanation:
the candidate/applicant must have total command of all of the skills (required for this position, etc.).

or

the candidate/applicant must possess all of the skills (required for this position, etc.).


or

the candidate/applicant must have full mastery of the skills (required for this position, etc.).



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Michael McCain (X)
France
Local time: 07:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
if excellentknowledge and significant experience are added to "strong command, it could be OK ? thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  df49f (X): total/full/perfect command of skills - full mastery also works well
40 mins
agree  Richard Benham: It's OK, but I prefer "mastery" in most cases. "Command" seems more restricted. It works well for languages, but not so well for other types of skills.
2 hrs
agree  Hebe Martorella: it is right but also we could use mastery
4 hrs
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
expertise


Explanation:
an option

Michele Fauble
United States
Local time: 22:15
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sarahl (X)
23 mins
  -> thanks
agree  Iolanta Vlaykova Paneva
1 hr
  -> thanks
agree  Richard Benham: OK. Yes it's an option, but I don't see any reason to avoid the obvious here.
2 hrs
  -> thanks
agree  Hebe Martorella: it also another option
4 hrs
  -> thanks
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
must be in full possession of all these skills


Explanation:
possess the full range of these skills

CMJ_Trans (X)
Local time: 07:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 38
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
fully versed in/ familiar with/ skilled


Explanation:

22 years with one of the Big Four global business service providers in the auditing, accounting, consultance, taxation and translation divisions.

I think mastery is too far-fetched.

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Note added at 7 mins (2004-09-13 14:24:47 GMT)
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Sorry, that should be consultancY!

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Note added at 2 hrs 48 mins (2004-09-13 17:05:26 GMT)
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Une maitrise totale. That\'s asking for the moon. Who has TOTAL mastery of any subject?

jarry (X)
South Africa
Local time: 07:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Richard Benham: Your answer is fine as an alternative, but I don't see anything wrong with "mastery".//What I would claim for myself and what I demand of others are two different things. I agree that Fr often uses stronger forms than Eng: perfectionnement is another case
2 hrs
  -> I think 'mastery' is over the top. Would you use that noun in your CV? See my comment to Marian Greenfield's suggested answer.
agree  Johanne Bouthillier: I like fully versed in best
15 hrs
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
must master one or more of these skills


Explanation:
English prefers a verb to a known in the context of this kind of sentence, IMO

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Note added at 9 mins (2004-09-13 14:26:40 GMT)
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Note added at 10 mins (2004-09-13 14:27:21 GMT)
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SORRY: I meant NOUN not known

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Note added at 10 mins (2004-09-13 14:28:10 GMT)
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It\'s too hard to google but I know that in English, we would use...must master rather than the noun

cheers

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Note added at 4 hrs 45 mins (2004-09-13 19:02:21 GMT)
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first time: one or more
next time: master ALL the skills

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  RHELLER: one or more? for totale de l'ensemble?
4 mins
  -> oh please..it's one or more...
agree  Richard Benham: Works well where it fits in grammatically. If it's just an itemized list of requirements, then you'd use the noun. If it's a full sentence, as you say, the verb is more idiomatic in English.
2 hrs
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