Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

prendre le top

English translation:

start the clock

Added to glossary by David Goward
Feb 7, 2005 09:37
19 yrs ago
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French term

prendre le top

French to English Tech/Engineering Aerospace / Aviation / Space Navigation procedures
Navigation. Distance measurement using the "isosceles triangle" method.

"Ouvrir de l'angle [alpha] du côté désiré et prendre le top. Attendre une variation de QDM [magnetic bearing to station] égale à l'angle d'ouverture, reprendre le cap vers la station (variation de cap égale à 2 fois l'angle d'ouverture). La distance à la station est donnée par le chronomètre à la mi-virage. Ne pas oubler de reprendre alors le top afin de pouvoir se matérialiser sur la branche retour".

Discussion

Maria Karra Feb 12, 2005:
David, if you choose to use the word "clock": it's not really "starting" the clock, prendre here means "take a measurement", "record". Good luck.
Non-ProZ.com Feb 8, 2005:
Maria Perhaps not a typo as such, but as this English acronym seems to be very close in meaning to the French word "top" in the sense of "top d�part" (i.e. a ""cue" or "signal" to start sth), it seems quite plausible that the two may be confused.
Maria Karra Feb 7, 2005:
If it's not the acronym and your text says "Top", I'm having second thoughts. Unless it's a typo.
Non-ProZ.com Feb 7, 2005:
Maria No, it does say "Top" in the diagram and "top" in the text although I've found a *very* similar document on the 'Net where it is written TOP: http://flymac.waika9.com/CoursIFR/navinst.html. Your answer sounds convincing.
Non-ProZ.com Feb 7, 2005:
Another example: "A partir d'un QDM 1, prendre un cap qui diff�re d'un angle a et prendre un top. Attendre un QDM 2 dont la diff�rence avec le QDM 1 est �gale � a. Le temps �coul� entre les deux QDM rep�sente le temps de vol s�parant l'avion de la station par vent nul. [...] a = 45� sera utilis� chaque fois que l'on veut contr�ler son �cartement par rapport � une balise".
This is followed by a diagram showing a plane's flight path horizontal across the page. This line is intersected by a vertical line (at right-angles) at the bottom of which we have the station. A dotted line runs from the station at 45� to join the horizontal line in front of the plane (thereby forming a triangle). The intersection between the horizontal line and the dotted line is labelled "Top 1" and the intersection between the horizontal and vertical lines is labelled "Top 2". It would therefore appear that they are indeed time checks.
Non-ProZ.com Feb 7, 2005:
irat56: Your definition is correct, but I don't think "top" is the word used in English. "Take a time check", I wonder?
Non-ProZ.com Feb 7, 2005:
"take a mark"???

Proposed translations

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Wait for the top of the chronometer

As the plane is...on the move! The "top" will be the beginning of the measures...

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Note added at 53 mins (2005-02-07 10:30:58 GMT)
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Au quatrième top il sera...= At the fourth pip (ou stroke)...
Peer comment(s):

agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : As in "start".
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2 hrs

aim to the top

Seulement pour ouvrir un autre horizon (f?)utile;

Puisqu'il s'agit du méthode de triangle isocèle, et en acceptant que "top" est un jargon d'avioniste d'origine anglaise pourquoi on peut aussi penser au "sommet" de l'angle. vertex = top(?)
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12 hrs

record the time of position

David, the diagram says "TOP 1" and "TOP 2", not "Top 1" and "Top 2", right? I think it should be "TOP", the acronym. Time of Position.
Now, although it makes sense that they write "TOP" (the acronym) in a diagram to save space, in the text I'd write it as "time of position". That's how it's used most of the time. TOP 1 and TOP 2 means that they record the time in two places, and then they probably subtract the two to find the time difference.

http://www.speakeasy.net/~tomdean/os.html
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