Apr 5, 2004 14:09
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Turkish term
Kamal
13 Mayis 1900 dogumlu oglumuz X.Y.
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Turkish to English
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13 Mayis 1900 dogumlu oglumuz X.Y. nin passaportunun 5 yil daha uzatilmasina muvafakat ediyor gereken islemlerin yapilmazini arz ederiz.
This is written in a book. Below is what I understood:
We hereby petition and give our consent to the extension of the passport of X.Y., born on May 13, 1990, for 5 more years.
I may be wrong. Could anyone please let me know if I am correct with the English terms? If I am not correct, could you please let me know what does the Turkish sentence mean?
This is written in a book. Below is what I understood:
We hereby petition and give our consent to the extension of the passport of X.Y., born on May 13, 1990, for 5 more years.
I may be wrong. Could anyone please let me know if I am correct with the English terms? If I am not correct, could you please let me know what does the Turkish sentence mean?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | You're right |
Özden Arıkan
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| 5 | We hereby petition and give our consent to the extension of the passport of X.Y., born on May 13, 19 |
SMLS
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| 4 +1 | renewal |
idea (X)
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| 5 -2 | We hereby assent more 5 years extension of the pass |
Adil Sönmez (X)
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Change log
Jul 3, 2005 17:05: Özden Arıkan changed "Field" from "Bus/Financial" to "Law/Patents" , "Field (specific)" from "Finance (general)" to "Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs"
Jul 3, 2005 17:07: Özden Arıkan changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Proposed translations
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Özden Arıkan
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You're right
it means exactly that, though the Turkish sentence should better correct as follows:
13 Mayıs 1900 doğumlu oğlumuz X.Y.'nin pasaportunun 5 yıl daha uzatılmasına muvafakat eder, gereğinin yapılmasını arz ederiz.
And the English wording could be:
We hereby consent as parents of X.Y., born on the 13th of May, 1990, that his passport can be renewed for another five years upon expiration.
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Note added at 19 mins (2004-04-05 14:29:19 GMT)
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I believe \"petition\" is not appropriate to use in this context; the parents are not asking for an entitlement or authorization, but they are using the entitlement and authority they already have. Please compare the following usages of petition and consent:
www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html
http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:5UwbZ1_tQ8QJ:www.mysaint...
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Note added at 1 hr 30 mins (2004-04-05 15:40:30 GMT)
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And you may want make use of this application form template issued by the US federal passport service for the parents of minors; it\'s for initial application though:
http://travel.state.gov/DS-3053.pdf
13 Mayıs 1900 doğumlu oğlumuz X.Y.'nin pasaportunun 5 yıl daha uzatılmasına muvafakat eder, gereğinin yapılmasını arz ederiz.
And the English wording could be:
We hereby consent as parents of X.Y., born on the 13th of May, 1990, that his passport can be renewed for another five years upon expiration.
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Note added at 19 mins (2004-04-05 14:29:19 GMT)
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I believe \"petition\" is not appropriate to use in this context; the parents are not asking for an entitlement or authorization, but they are using the entitlement and authority they already have. Please compare the following usages of petition and consent:
www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html
http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:5UwbZ1_tQ8QJ:www.mysaint...
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Note added at 1 hr 30 mins (2004-04-05 15:40:30 GMT)
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And you may want make use of this application form template issued by the US federal passport service for the parents of minors; it\'s for initial application though:
http://travel.state.gov/DS-3053.pdf
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11 mins
We hereby petition and give our consent to the extension of the passport of X.Y., born on May 13, 19
Yes that is what I'd use. I take it the 1900 is a mistake?
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Note added at 20 mins (2004-04-05 14:30:06 GMT)
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If you want you could change \"for five more years\" to \"for a further 5 years\"
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Note added at 20 mins (2004-04-05 14:30:06 GMT)
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If you want you could change \"for five more years\" to \"for a further 5 years\"
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1 hr
We hereby assent more 5 years extension of the pass
belonging to our son XY born on May 13, 1900, and kindly request to cause the necessary transactions.
XYnin ibaresinin, belonging to XY şeklinde çevrilmesi kanıma gore daha uygundur.
Oğlu için dilekçe veren doğal olarak anne ve baba olduğundan, our son ile parent sözcüklerinin birlikte kullanılması, görüşüme gore yersizdir.
Petition (dilekçe vermek); cümlenin aslında bulunmadığı ve hereby dilekçenin yerini tuttuğu için uygun değil kanaatindeyim.
Pasaportun yenilenmesi değil uzatılması iztendiğinden renewe sozcüğünün doğru olmadığı görüşündeyim.
XYnin ibaresinin, belonging to XY şeklinde çevrilmesi kanıma gore daha uygundur.
Oğlu için dilekçe veren doğal olarak anne ve baba olduğundan, our son ile parent sözcüklerinin birlikte kullanılması, görüşüme gore yersizdir.
Petition (dilekçe vermek); cümlenin aslında bulunmadığı ve hereby dilekçenin yerini tuttuğu için uygun değil kanaatindeyim.
Pasaportun yenilenmesi değil uzatılması iztendiğinden renewe sozcüğünün doğru olmadığı görüşündeyim.
Peer comment(s):
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SMLS
: this does not make sense in English. Maybe it would work as "we hereby assent to a five year extension of the passport"
32 mins
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| disagree |
idea (X)
: Extension of the passport means an altogether different thing!
21 hrs
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22 hrs
Turkish term (edited):
Pasaportun uzat�lmas�/yenilenmesi
renewal
Xola is right and besides:
Extension of the passport means an altogether different thing. For UK and USA authorities it would mean Extension to a second passport, which implies the need for a second passport (The only justification considered for issuance of a second, valid passport being an urgent need for international travel while the bearer's full validity passport is unavailable due to visa processing at other embassies.)
Conceptual thinking simply does not work for these. Translation should keep up with established standards of the target language. So the right term is renew for sure. And renewal of a passport means prolongation of the validity period; not issuance of a brand new passport.
Extension of the passport means an altogether different thing. For UK and USA authorities it would mean Extension to a second passport, which implies the need for a second passport (The only justification considered for issuance of a second, valid passport being an urgent need for international travel while the bearer's full validity passport is unavailable due to visa processing at other embassies.)
Conceptual thinking simply does not work for these. Translation should keep up with established standards of the target language. So the right term is renew for sure. And renewal of a passport means prolongation of the validity period; not issuance of a brand new passport.
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