Oct 5, 2017 14:42
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Greek term
εκτός ναύλου
Greek to English
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Εντεύθεν το πλοίο μου ετέθη εκτός ναύλου κατά την χρονική περίοδο της κατάσχεσής του, ενώ προηγουμένως ήταν εντός ναύλου ...
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | off charter/not chartered |
transphy
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| 5 +2 | off hire |
Nick Lingris
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off charter/not chartered
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On & Off Charter Surveys [wnvnl ]
www.wnvnl.com/on--off-charter-surveys.html
From the 1920’s onwards, Van Woerkom, Nobels & Ten Veen has provided independent on- and off-charter surveys for owners, contractors and joint ventures of their ...
''...............Based on the type of charter party agreed between owner and charterer, a thorough assessment of the on hire condition is drawn up, if necessary accompanied by ultrasonic thickness measurements, photographs, inventory lists and a review of the vessels' certificates......''
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On/Off-Charter - Able-bodied Marine Surveyors
ablebodiedmarine.com/onoff-charter.html
On/Off Charter. An on charter survey is a detailed internal and external inspection of the vessel documenting the current condition of the vessel prior to going on ...
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'Seizure' of the vessel, for possible reasons of carrying contraband cargo, or of a criminal act NOT coming from the part of the Charterer, i.e. not the fault of the Charterer, the boat is still under Charter and NOT off-Hire.
''..Certain agreed events can cause the ship to become off-hire. These are generally related to the equipment breaking down, the deficiency of the crew, and other similar causes. Such events are known as "off hire events". The ship can also be treated as being "off hire" if its performance is not as described in the charterparty, e.g., if it cannot meet the warranted speed and there is an overall loss of time on sea passages because of the slower speed. In some charters the ship becomes off-hire when the shipowner decides to put the ship into drydock during the charter period and also if there is any time lost because the vessel fails to comply with anti-pollution regulations''. All the above are faults of the Charterer, the vessel can go 'off hire'. 'Seizure' is not the Charterer's fault, more likely the Hirer's. This is not defined as contested, whether 'seizure' is because of Charterer or of Hirer.
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TYP.
'Seizure' of the vessel, for possible reasons of carrying contraband cargo, or of a criminal act NOT coming from the part of the Owner, i.e. not the fault of the Owner, the boat is still under Charter and NOT off-Hire.
The 'confusion', here is, that one does not know whose fault it was that the vessel was 'seized'. The Owner OR the Hirer?
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On & Off Charter Surveys [wnvnl ]
www.wnvnl.com/on--off-charter-surveys.html
From the 1920’s onwards, Van Woerkom, Nobels & Ten Veen has provided independent on- and off-charter surveys for owners, contractors and joint ventures of their ...
''...............Based on the type of charter party agreed between owner and charterer, a thorough assessment of the on hire condition is drawn up, if necessary accompanied by ultrasonic thickness measurements, photographs, inventory lists and a review of the vessels' certificates......''
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Note added at 1 hr (2017-10-05 15:51:46 GMT)
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On/Off-Charter - Able-bodied Marine Surveyors
ablebodiedmarine.com/onoff-charter.html
On/Off Charter. An on charter survey is a detailed internal and external inspection of the vessel documenting the current condition of the vessel prior to going on ...
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Note added at 6 days (2017-10-11 21:29:57 GMT)
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'Seizure' of the vessel, for possible reasons of carrying contraband cargo, or of a criminal act NOT coming from the part of the Charterer, i.e. not the fault of the Charterer, the boat is still under Charter and NOT off-Hire.
''..Certain agreed events can cause the ship to become off-hire. These are generally related to the equipment breaking down, the deficiency of the crew, and other similar causes. Such events are known as "off hire events". The ship can also be treated as being "off hire" if its performance is not as described in the charterparty, e.g., if it cannot meet the warranted speed and there is an overall loss of time on sea passages because of the slower speed. In some charters the ship becomes off-hire when the shipowner decides to put the ship into drydock during the charter period and also if there is any time lost because the vessel fails to comply with anti-pollution regulations''. All the above are faults of the Charterer, the vessel can go 'off hire'. 'Seizure' is not the Charterer's fault, more likely the Hirer's. This is not defined as contested, whether 'seizure' is because of Charterer or of Hirer.
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Note added at 6 days (2017-10-12 10:18:09 GMT)
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TYP.
'Seizure' of the vessel, for possible reasons of carrying contraband cargo, or of a criminal act NOT coming from the part of the Owner, i.e. not the fault of the Owner, the boat is still under Charter and NOT off-Hire.
The 'confusion', here is, that one does not know whose fault it was that the vessel was 'seized'. The Owner OR the Hirer?
Peer comment(s):
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Peter Close
: Off-charter
13 hrs
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Thank you.
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| agree |
Dylan Edwards
1 day 16 hrs
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Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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4 days
Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Greek
United Kingdom
The word is my oyster
Native in: Greek 
Works in: English to Greek, Greek to English, Greek
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35
off hire
Αποσπάσματα από το Commercial Shipping Handbook (2nd edition) by Peter Brodie
(p. 287)
If during the charter the ship or an important piece of equipment breaks down, the ship is taken off hire by the charterer. Hire money is temporarily suspended until the breakdown is repaired. In practice, hire money may continue to be paid by the charterer, and refunded after the ship comes back on hire, together with a refund covering the amount of bunkers consumed during this period. The document detailing the off hire period is called the off hire statement.
(p. 272, 1st ed.)
Off hire clause: Clause which sets out the circumstances in which hire money, payable by the charterer to the shipowner, may be temporarily suspended. These periods are known as off hire periods. The circumstances vary according to the individual contract but may include:
—inability on the part of the ship to comply with the charterer’s instructions because of damage, defect or breakdown;
—arrest of the ship for reasons unconnected with the charterers;
—loss of time for which the ship is responsible;
—drydocking (this is often provided for in a separate clause).
Από την ύλη μαθήματος:
Εκτός ναύλωσης (off-hire). Ο χρόνος, ο οποίος συνήθως μετράται σε ημέρες, στη διάρκεια του οποίου υπάρχει αναστολή πληρωμών ναύλων λόγω μη διαθεσιμότητας του πλοίου για να πραγματοποιήσει εμπορική διαδικασία, πχ. λόγω βλάβης ή προγραμματισμένης συντήρησης.
(p. 287)
If during the charter the ship or an important piece of equipment breaks down, the ship is taken off hire by the charterer. Hire money is temporarily suspended until the breakdown is repaired. In practice, hire money may continue to be paid by the charterer, and refunded after the ship comes back on hire, together with a refund covering the amount of bunkers consumed during this period. The document detailing the off hire period is called the off hire statement.
(p. 272, 1st ed.)
Off hire clause: Clause which sets out the circumstances in which hire money, payable by the charterer to the shipowner, may be temporarily suspended. These periods are known as off hire periods. The circumstances vary according to the individual contract but may include:
—inability on the part of the ship to comply with the charterer’s instructions because of damage, defect or breakdown;
—arrest of the ship for reasons unconnected with the charterers;
—loss of time for which the ship is responsible;
—drydocking (this is often provided for in a separate clause).
Από την ύλη μαθήματος:
Εκτός ναύλωσης (off-hire). Ο χρόνος, ο οποίος συνήθως μετράται σε ημέρες, στη διάρκεια του οποίου υπάρχει αναστολή πληρωμών ναύλων λόγω μη διαθεσιμότητας του πλοίου για να πραγματοποιήσει εμπορική διαδικασία, πχ. λόγω βλάβης ή προγραμματισμένης συντήρησης.
Peer comment(s):
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transphy
: Not for Boats/Aircraft
1 hr
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| agree |
Alexandra Karanikolou
4 hrs
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Ευχαριστώ!
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| agree |
Sakis Serafeim
4 hrs
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Ευχαριστώ!
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| agree |
Vasiliki Nikolaidou
14 hrs
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Thank you.
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Discussion
http://www.seaspancorp.com/ir-dashboard/ir-resource/glossary...
http://www.shipinspection.eu/index.php/chartering-terms/81-o...
https://goo.gl/bCye2B
https://cronfa.swan.ac.uk/Record/cronfa22539
https://goo.gl/5i4mTM
''The Dictionary of International Commerce says that "off charter" refers to the TERMINATION of the charter agreement.....'' So, why is the Dictionary talking of 'Charter' and the 'charter agreement' and NOT the 'Hiring' and 'Hire agreement'(???) without having to refer to 'Charter' and 'Charter Agreement'?
Even in the text you provided, the term is 'charter' and 'charterer'. Yes a 'charter' is a form of 'hire' but in your text the 'hire' is used as an explanation of what 'charter' means. And DEFINITELY you 'CHARTER' a 'boat' or an 'aircraft' and yes. 'CHARTER' is a form of 'hiring'. Ως και τ' 'αγώγια' φορτίων, στά πλοία ΚΑΙ τα αεροπλάνα ονομάζονται 'ναύλα' και 'ναυλώνεις' πλοίο ή αεροπλάνο. Δεν τα 'ενοικιάζεις', σαν αυτοκίνητα, ποδήλατα και ότιδήποτε άλλα μικρά αντικείμενα που 'ενικοιάζονται'=Are Hired!!!
TEMPORARY suspension as e.g. during a κατάσχεση / arrest of the ship is described with "off hire".
- But now I've just found something. This dictionary (Σταφυλίδη) gives the following:
εκτός μίσθωσης - off hire
εκτός ναύλωσης - off charter
"Off-charter" should not be confused with "off-hire," says the Dictionary of International Commerce.
"Off-charter" refers to the "termination of a vessel charter agreement".
"Off-hire" is defined as "a period of time when a chartered vessel is not earning income for the owner" (but the charter agreement remains in force).