loge de Baretti

English translation: "Barety('s) space" (right paratracheal space)

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French term or phrase:loge de Barety
English translation:"Barety('s) space" (right paratracheal space)
Entered by: Nick Lingris

09:16 Jul 1, 2005
French to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general)
French term or phrase: loge de Baretti
Once again - question relating to a guy riddled with cancer.
Found in the phrase:
"Masse dans la loge de Baretti en rapport avec un ganglion évolutif mesuré 26x21 mm."
and
"Lâcher de ballons pulmonaire connu avec stabilité de l'ensemble des lésions nodulaires et macronodulaires. Stabilité de deux lésions médiastinales, une jugulo-carotidienne gauche et l'autre situé dans la loge de Baretti."

Many thanks
Rachel Mackay
Local time: 05:46
Barety space
Explanation:
All I could find, I'm afraid.

...lymphadenopathy with involvement of the Barety space
...be added to the already long list of abnormal opacities of Barety's space

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Note added at 14 mins (2005-07-01 09:30:42 GMT)
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In French, it seems that the more common spelling is also \"loge de Barety\".

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Note added at 55 mins (2005-07-01 10:12:11 GMT) Post-grading
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The first example given comes from:
- The Journal of Ultrasound in Medicine published by The American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine



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Note added at 59 mins (2005-07-01 10:16:25 GMT) Post-grading
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The second example comes from the translation of a French article, where they decided to keep the term.
The abstract starts as follows: Lymph nodes of the Barety\'s space (LNLB) often involved in lung diseases are known under various names...
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Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:46
Grading comment
That's it - perfect! Just what I was looking for!
Cheers!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2right paratracheal space
Marilyn Amouyal
2 +1the right anterolateral face of the trachea
Allan MacKinnon (X)
3Barety space
Nick Lingris


  

Answers


17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
right paratracheal space


Explanation:
Possibly a typo. The entry in my personal glossary is: loge de Baréty = right paratracheal space.


    www-ulpmed.u-strasbg.fr/medecine/ cours_en_ligne/e_cours/cancero/TUMEURS_MEDIASTIN.pdf -
Marilyn Amouyal
France
Local time: 06:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 88

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nick Lingris: You may be right but see the different French explanations: chaîne prétrachéale droite, médiastin supérieur droit, loge latérotrachéale droite. It is confusing. I will, however, add your version to the glossary. Sorry about the points. :-)
21 mins
  -> Don't be sorry about the points Nick, that's not why I try to help people on Proz. The problem was using a term in the translation that would not be used by an English-speaker. That said French doctors can be very imprecise in their texts at times.

agree  Dr Sue Levy (X): I'm sure I've already seen this question on Proz but can't find it in the gloss.
48 mins
  -> thanks Sue
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51 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the right anterolateral face of the trachea


Explanation:
La loge de Baréty: Située le long de la face antérolatérale droite de la trachée.

Found on this site:

http://forums.remede.org/anatomie/sujet_17919.html?action=pr...

I have no idea if there is a specific name for the area in english. This is where it is found.

Allan MacKinnon (X)
Canada
Local time: 01:46
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marilyn Amouyal: though I wouldn't say face. As your eference indicates, even the French have trouble with this term.
4 hrs
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Barety space


Explanation:
All I could find, I'm afraid.

...lymphadenopathy with involvement of the Barety space
...be added to the already long list of abnormal opacities of Barety's space

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Note added at 14 mins (2005-07-01 09:30:42 GMT)
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In French, it seems that the more common spelling is also \"loge de Barety\".

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 55 mins (2005-07-01 10:12:11 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

The first example given comes from:
- The Journal of Ultrasound in Medicine published by The American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine



--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 59 mins (2005-07-01 10:16:25 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

The second example comes from the translation of a French article, where they decided to keep the term.
The abstract starts as follows: Lymph nodes of the Barety\'s space (LNLB) often involved in lung diseases are known under various names...

Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:46
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
That's it - perfect! Just what I was looking for!
Cheers!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Marilyn Amouyal: Baréty is the correct spellling but Barety space is not used by English-speaking authors.
5 mins

agree  Michele Fauble: /www.proz.com/kudoz/888168
9 hrs
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