Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
escalinata volada
English translation:
outset staircase
Added to glossary by
Patricia Rosas
Aug 24, 2007 19:28
16 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United States
servicios para autores académicos
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
escalinata volada
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Architecture
Archaeology/MAYAN
En la cima de una elevación natural de 15 m de altura, presenta tres habitaciones que miran al sur. La fachada está parcialmente cubierta por una escalinata volada que conduce hacia el techo o segundo piso.
I thought of cantilevered stairs, but the examples I see for that and for "escalera volada" are all modern "floating" staircases, and I can't envision that construction using stone slabs, so I'm wondering if there is another term?
I thought of cantilevered stairs, but the examples I see for that and for "escalera volada" are all modern "floating" staircases, and I can't envision that construction using stone slabs, so I'm wondering if there is another term?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | flown perron |
Parrot
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| 5 | projecting (overhanging) stairway |
Juan Arturo Carbajal Manjarrez
|
| 4 | protruding staircase |
Michael Powers (PhD)
|
| 4 | outside/mural staircase |
bigedsenior
|
Proposed translations
2 hrs
Selected
flown perron
According to the bilingual source below. The term "perron" is defined in the second link. Suggestion, HTH. Love yr. topic.
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Note added at 13 hrs (2007-08-25 08:59:16 GMT)
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Is it this one, Patricia? (Site: Xcalumkin, still in Campeche) http://contentdm.nitle.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/re...
And could the "volado" actually mean "corbelled"? (The stairs are set on top of a corbelled half-arch).
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Note added at 20 hrs (2007-08-25 15:36:56 GMT)
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There are a lot of architectural text types, and some I don't deal with; but I'm from Fine Arts/Sculpture (and the engineering-structural-materials side of it), taught art history, and did my PhD thesis on the archaeological side of the gamut (with work experience in UNESCO), so ruins are my bag :D -- for better or for worse :D. You could say I'm more hands-on than book-anchored.
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Note added at 20 hrs (2007-08-25 15:39:09 GMT)
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As for the weekend, thanks, but bank questionnaires are getting me a wee bit down :-(
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Note added at 20 hrs (2007-08-25 16:17:01 GMT)
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Here, these might be helpful, from REALIA: http://contentdm.nitle.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/re...
http://contentdm.nitle.org/cdm4/results.php?CISOOP1=any&CISO...
When they say "series", I presume this is dictated by the years (campaigns) spent digging. You'd need a site map of Xcalumkin to get oriented.
(Dissertation involved Indian/South Asian/South-east Asian archaeology & sculpture - did the practicum in Mohejo-daro, Jaipur, Benares & Maharasthra. Climbed a few pyramids and discovered those guys must've worn size 5 shoes! Since the topic had to do with calendars and observatories [astronomical content in sculpture], had to study the Mayas as well, particularly Copan. My thesis is probably dated by now.)
Google Earth now makes archaeological sitemaps from space, I just don't know where they stash the database. But they're able to detect lots of things we can't from the ground, including latter-day vegetation over possible older sites. Some maps are published -- the one about Cambodia is famous.
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Note added at 13 hrs (2007-08-25 08:59:16 GMT)
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Is it this one, Patricia? (Site: Xcalumkin, still in Campeche) http://contentdm.nitle.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/re...
And could the "volado" actually mean "corbelled"? (The stairs are set on top of a corbelled half-arch).
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Note added at 20 hrs (2007-08-25 15:36:56 GMT)
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There are a lot of architectural text types, and some I don't deal with; but I'm from Fine Arts/Sculpture (and the engineering-structural-materials side of it), taught art history, and did my PhD thesis on the archaeological side of the gamut (with work experience in UNESCO), so ruins are my bag :D -- for better or for worse :D. You could say I'm more hands-on than book-anchored.
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Note added at 20 hrs (2007-08-25 15:39:09 GMT)
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As for the weekend, thanks, but bank questionnaires are getting me a wee bit down :-(
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Note added at 20 hrs (2007-08-25 16:17:01 GMT)
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Here, these might be helpful, from REALIA: http://contentdm.nitle.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/re...
http://contentdm.nitle.org/cdm4/results.php?CISOOP1=any&CISO...
When they say "series", I presume this is dictated by the years (campaigns) spent digging. You'd need a site map of Xcalumkin to get oriented.
(Dissertation involved Indian/South Asian/South-east Asian archaeology & sculpture - did the practicum in Mohejo-daro, Jaipur, Benares & Maharasthra. Climbed a few pyramids and discovered those guys must've worn size 5 shoes! Since the topic had to do with calendars and observatories [astronomical content in sculpture], had to study the Mayas as well, particularly Copan. My thesis is probably dated by now.)
Google Earth now makes archaeological sitemaps from space, I just don't know where they stash the database. But they're able to detect lots of things we can't from the ground, including latter-day vegetation over possible older sites. Some maps are published -- the one about Cambodia is famous.
Note from asker:
| I'd never heard of "perron" before, so thanks for suggesting this. |
| Cecilia: Thanks so much for sharing the link (I had never come across the REALIA project, and it looks like it will be very useful). You found the building discussed just after the one I'm asking about. For the Palace of the Cylinders, my author says: tras la escalera que lleva al segundo nivel hay un pasaje abovedado que facilita la circulación. There are multiple authors in this little work, so variation is possible, but so far, all I've seen for corbel vault is "bóveda voladiza" (I've decided that "bóveda salediza" is a synonym -- long story how I arrived at that out, and I am going to ask the publisher for confirmation.) Do you translate architectural texts? Hope you're having a good weekend! |
| Can I ask what the diss. topic was on? What led you to become a translator (sorry to hear you are translating the questionnaires!) I meant to say that the structure in question here is "The Northwestern Hill Building" but I can't find any information about it (not even anything with the site name and just "northwestern"). I'm about to post a question that is right up your alley, so get ready! ;-) |
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I confirmed with someone who works in the field that "OUTSET staircase" is the right term for this particular structure, but Parrot's links helped me find that term, so the pts. go to her. Thanks again."
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Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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Mexico
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projecting (overhanging) stairway
volado: overhanging, projecting, corbeled.
escalinata: small stairway.
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Discussion
That term appears in a dissertation on the site, but I couldn't determine if the author is talking about the same building. Here's another place where it is used --
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