Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Liebesgewinkel
English translation:
love/amorous entanglements
Added to glossary by
Helen Shiner
Aug 28, 2008 16:30
15 yrs ago
German term
Liebesgewinkel
German to English
Art/Literary
History
The context is a text about gender relations in the 18th and 19th century as expressed in contemporary literature on proper social conduct. The issue specifically addressed here is whether women by nature are capable of writing.
This is the sentence:
"Und abschwächend wird eingeräumt, dass, wenn manche dieser Frauen ‘durch die Art und Weise dieses Schreibens aus der weiblichen Sphäre heraustreten’, doch ebenso Männer anzutreffen sind, ‘die durch ihr lyrisches Liebesgewinkel ohne Kraft und Haltung aus den von der Natur bestimmten Grenzen gehen’".
I don't have a clue what "Liebesgewinkel" means in German much less do I know what a meaningful translation might be. Can anybody help? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
This is the sentence:
"Und abschwächend wird eingeräumt, dass, wenn manche dieser Frauen ‘durch die Art und Weise dieses Schreibens aus der weiblichen Sphäre heraustreten’, doch ebenso Männer anzutreffen sind, ‘die durch ihr lyrisches Liebesgewinkel ohne Kraft und Haltung aus den von der Natur bestimmten Grenzen gehen’".
I don't have a clue what "Liebesgewinkel" means in German much less do I know what a meaningful translation might be. Can anybody help? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | love/amorous entanglements |
Helen Shiner
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| 3 +2 | love-struck purring |
hazmatgerman (X)
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| 3 | exchange of amorous gestures |
Paul Kachur
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| 3 | romantic angle |
babli
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| 3 | lyrical love nest |
Kim Metzger
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| 2 +1 | amorous whining |
seehand
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Change log
Sep 2, 2008 20:11: Helen Shiner Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
7 hrs
Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Arts/Academic translator - Art historian
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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105
Selected
love/amorous entanglements
From the context, I would say that this is probably what it means, i.e. they have been unmanned by writing poetry and billets doux.
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Note added at 5 days (2008-09-02 20:14:14 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for the points. It'd be interesting to hear if you do ever land on the correct translation by some means.
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Note added at 5 days (2008-09-02 20:14:14 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for the points. It'd be interesting to hear if you do ever land on the correct translation by some means.
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I must admit that I'm still not quite sure whether the problem of translating "Liebesgewinkel" has really been adequately solved. I have opted for "lyrical entanglement with love". Actually Kim got me on this track. But since Helen's suggestion is closest to the chosen solution, I guess that's were the points go. Thanks to all of you for your help! I greatly appreciate it!"
4 mins
exchange of amorous gestures
I assume it is refers to the romanic equivalent of "ein Wink mit dem Zaunpfahl"...
39 mins
romantic angle
Or one can say love angle.
48 mins
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Works in field
Mexico
Committed to Quality and Service
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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212
lyrical love nest
Gewinkel is the older form of Winkel: nook and cranny, a quiet, secluded place.
I think the idea is that some women don't write like women and some men don't write like men - with force and composure -
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Note added at 50 mins (2008-08-28 17:20:58 GMT)
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entangled in their lyrical love nest
I think the idea is that some women don't write like women and some men don't write like men - with force and composure -
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Note added at 50 mins (2008-08-28 17:20:58 GMT)
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entangled in their lyrical love nest
Example sentence:
men who, because they are entangled in to their lyrical love nest, depart from the limits determined
Note from asker:
| Thanks a lot Kim. Your link got me on track to finding a solution. |
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15 hrs
love-struck purring
Ich lese das Gewinkel hier als Synonym für neuer "Gesäusel", das in sich die gleiche leicht abwertende Einschätzung trägt. Dafür, denke ich, kann die engl. Übertragung passen.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Helen Shiner
: I like the 'love-struck', perhaps 'whispering'?
7 mins
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'Whispering' wäre mir zu neutral. Gruß.
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| agree |
Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
4 hrs
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+1
15 hrs
amorous whining
Ich frage mich, ob hier nicht ein Tippfehler vorliegt und das Ganze Liebesgewinsel heißen sollte, das würde doch auch zum Text passen, oder?
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
DonM
: Seems the likeliest explanation to me. Perhaps "whimpering" to convey more clearly what cissies these men are being portrayed as.
8 hrs
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auch gut, vielen Dank
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