Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
saladine
English translation:
saladine; mixed salad
Added to glossary by
Carol Gullidge
Oct 5, 2011 10:42
12 yrs ago
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French term
United Kingdom
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Native in: English 
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saladine
French to English
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Cooking / Culinary
menu item
Entrecôte* grillée (350 g), gratin de pommes de terre et saladine
This is for a café/restaurant near Bordeaux. I believe saladine is a local (Gironde?) dish. Any ideas (not wordy, as there is little space!) to differentiate between this and an ordinary salad - if indeed this is a type of salad - would be most welcome!
There is a wordreference forum suggesting that pine nuts are involved, but, as is often the case, the contributors to the forum are not all that convincing, although "pesto saladine" found elsewhere suggests there may be an element of truth in this... At the moment, I'm thinking along the lines of Gironde salad, on the assumption that the diners would ask the waiter for more details... My experience is that waiters usually love explaining dishes to guests. But does this sound like too much of a cop out? And is this actually a salad?
TIA
This is for a café/restaurant near Bordeaux. I believe saladine is a local (Gironde?) dish. Any ideas (not wordy, as there is little space!) to differentiate between this and an ordinary salad - if indeed this is a type of salad - would be most welcome!
There is a wordreference forum suggesting that pine nuts are involved, but, as is often the case, the contributors to the forum are not all that convincing, although "pesto saladine" found elsewhere suggests there may be an element of truth in this... At the moment, I'm thinking along the lines of Gironde salad, on the assumption that the diners would ask the waiter for more details... My experience is that waiters usually love explaining dishes to guests. But does this sound like too much of a cop out? And is this actually a salad?
TIA
Proposed translations
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| 4 | saladine (see explanation) |
Colin Morley (X)
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Proposed translations
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saladine (see explanation)
I would leave the French term (as you suggest the waiter will enjoy explaining) though you could add that it is made with duck and pine nuts as a short explanation if space permits.
Note from asker:
| many thanks Colin! This could well be the way to go. I'm currently waiting for an explanation from the chef, but expect to have to wait quite a while... |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks so much to everyone for your contributions! Rather surprisingly and boringly(?), the chef's explanation revealed this to be just a mixed salad. So I don't think the Landes connection in fact had any bearing on this term in this particular menu. Ah well... "
Reference comments
2 mins
Reference:
Not a salad?
Sounds delicious, though...
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Note added at 12 mins (2011-10-05 10:54:47 GMT)
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Though I also came across a reference to "saladine" just being a salad too. You may have to ask the client, Carol.
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Note added at 12 mins (2011-10-05 10:54:47 GMT)
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Though I also came across a reference to "saladine" just being a salad too. You may have to ask the client, Carol.
Note from asker:
| Excellent JaneD!!! Many thanks for this - which I had failed to find, despite my efforts! based on this info, I shall have to get back to the drawing board |
| thanks again Jane! I did in fact just send a message to the chef, but will no doubt have to wait quite a while for his explanation. |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Colin Morley (X)
: Yes - I was about to post exactly the same link!
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Thanks Colin - looks nice, doesn't it?!
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Sharon Polson
: I was about to post the same reference :)
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| agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: So was I BUT... see references below.
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That's exactly how my thinking has gone - it'd be nice if it was the stuff with the pine nuts, but I suspect it's just a salad!
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Melissa McMahon
Australia
Australia
Native in English
Specializes in field
Australia
Related KudoZ points
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35
Reference:
baby mesclun?
My guess is that this is just a variation on "salade", perhaps down the mesclun line.
See, eg.:
- http://tinyurl.com/3wsbrzg
- http://www.marche-cuendet.ch/saladine-salade-a-tondre.html
- http://laterrasse-restaurant.com/carte.html
See, eg.:
- http://tinyurl.com/3wsbrzg
- http://www.marche-cuendet.ch/saladine-salade-a-tondre.html
- http://laterrasse-restaurant.com/carte.html
Note from asker:
| Many thanks Melissa! But, oh dear, now I'm totally confused! I have in fact just sent a message to the Chef, but I imagine he's rather busy right now... |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| neutral |
JaneD
: Looking at the geography of these references, I wonder whether saladine is a salad in the east of France and Switzerland, and the pine nut thing in the west?
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I feel like the pine-nut etc. things are called "saladine" because they're things you put in a salad (salade composée) or are still a variety of salad, rather than being a specific dish
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Mark Nathan
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Thanks Mark
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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20
Reference:
saladine
Instinctively, I thought this might have been a small lettuce (as in little "salade"), particularly in view of the "sucrine" lettuces you find everywhere now, a sort of mini Chinese leaves. I was wrong. it is no doubt a particular dish and quite likely from the Landes region. That ties in nicely with the Bordeaux reference. However, being a curious sort, as even in the right region, folks do sometimes jump on the local food bandwagon.... I shudder to think what some restaurants try to apss off as a traditional recipe, even allowing for artistic licence!
Here are another couple of references in addition to the one we all found. The first one poste by JaneD does strike me as a reference but here are a couple of variations upon a theme :
http://www.lesfoodies.com/aromatic/recette/saladine-moules-c...
http://www.google.fr/imgres?q=saladine&um=1&hl=fr&sa=N&biw=1...
You may also like to bear in mind that YouTube is often a good source of recipes. Nothing found in this cacse though!
Here are another couple of references in addition to the one we all found. The first one poste by JaneD does strike me as a reference but here are a couple of variations upon a theme :
http://www.lesfoodies.com/aromatic/recette/saladine-moules-c...
http://www.google.fr/imgres?q=saladine&um=1&hl=fr&sa=N&biw=1...
You may also like to bear in mind that YouTube is often a good source of recipes. Nothing found in this cacse though!
Note from asker:
| many thanks Nikki! In fact, the chef has just come back with the following - which surprised me: La saladine est un mélange de différentes salades. Donc, c’est gratin de pommes de terre et saladine. « En nage de Sauternes », cela veut dire littéralement que les Saint-Jacques « nagent » (sont baignées) dans le bouillon à base de Sauternes. C’est une sauce très liquide |
| sorry - the last bit referred to another question I asked the chef! |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| neutral |
Melissa McMahon
: Both of the references, as well as Jane's still strike me as consistent with saladine being a posh word for salad...
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Perhaps, if so, then chopped up into to tiny pieces though!
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