licencié agrégé

English translation: licencié agrégé (academic rank conferred after passing a rigidly competititive examination entitling the holder to teach)

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French term or phrase:	licencié agrégé
English translation:	licencié agrégé (academic rank conferred after passing a rigidly competititive examination entitling the holder to teach)
Entered by:	Yolanda Broad

11:24 Jul 11, 2003

French to English translations [PRO]
/ University degree

French term or phrase: licencié agrégé

This is somebody's degree from the Universite Libre de Bruxelles.

It says that they are a "licencié-agrégé en philologie romane de l’ULB"

I'm thinking that they have a Bachelor of Arts in Romance Literature from the Universite Libre de Bruxelles.

The problem I have is with the term "agrégé".

I found that it means "an academic rank conferred by a French university on one who has passed a rigidly competition examination and who is therefore entitled to appointment to the highest teaching post at a lycée or at a university.

I'm just wondering if there is a way to say that in English or if the way I translated it works best. To my knowledge, I am not familiar with that academic rank in the US.

Donovan Libring KudoZ activity Questions: 1249 (2 open) (53 closed without grading) Answers: 47
Local time: 04:00

Do not translate...

Explanation:
There is no equivalent. Your explanation is quite correct.
"The Agrégé" will teach in a Junior High School, a Lycée, or a University...

Selected response from:

Pierre POUSSIN
France
Local time: 04:00

Grading comment

thank you for all the great answers. and thank you for the confirmation. I did just leave it because that is how we say it in the US. If later the person wants to make reference to the fact that they have a teaching certificate, then they do that on another line as part of their credentials.
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Summary of answers provided

4 +1

agrégé

Said Kaljanac a.k.a. SARAJ

Do not translate...

Pierre POUSSIN

BA + PGCE

Transflux (X)

at the lycée, yes...

Serge L

holder of the agrégation

Jonathan MacKerron

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

agrégé

Explanation:
an academic rank conferred by a French university on one who has passed a rigidly competition examination and who is therefore entitled to appointment to the highest teaching post in a lycée or in...a university.

source: Eurodicautom

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example:

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... ST Labs, an independent software testing company in Seattle, but now he\'s back in ... Ms.
Bral holds an Agrege in Pedagogy, University of Ghent and Licentiaat in ...
www.soft.com/QualWeek/QW98/qw98.board.html - 36k - En cache - Pages similaires

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electric minds | world wide jam | paris - [ Traduire cette page ]
... Stéphane Lohier is a \"professeur agrégé\" (ie, one who has passed the highest ... For
over two years, he\'s also been working for Education Nationale\'s Académie ...
www.abbedon.com/electricminds/html/wwj_paris_1550.html - 13k - En cache - Pages similaires

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I think you should keep it as it is.

Said Kaljanac a.k.a. SARAJ
Belgium
Local time: 04:00
Native speaker of:

French,

Bosnian
PRO pts in pair: 35

12 mins confidence:

at the lycée, yes...

Explanation:
J'ai également ce diplôme, mais de l'université néerlandophone ;o)

Pour la Belgique, il convient de faire la distinction entre "agrégé de l'enseignement secondaire" (supérieur ou inférieur, selon le cas; pour les universitaires, c'est en principe l'enseignement secondaire supérieur) et "agrégé de l'enseignement supérieur".

Malheureusement, je ne connais pas les équivalent en anglais...

Serge L.

Reference: http://www.fundp.ac.be/etudes/programme/lettres/aes.html

Serge L
Local time: 04:00
PRO pts in pair: 227

14 mins confidence:

Do not translate...

Explanation:
There is no equivalent. Your explanation is quite correct.
"The Agrégé" will teach in a Junior High School, a Lycée, or a University...

Pierre POUSSIN
France
Local time: 04:00
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in pair: 400

Grading comment

21 mins confidence:

BA + PGCE

Explanation:
This is equivalent to a Post Graduate Certificate in Education in the UK, which you take after finishing a degree if you want to teach. Here is some useful information to help you decide:

The teachers working with pupils of age 15-18 generally attend 4 years of study in a university
faculty (mainly sciences) where they obtained a diploma of licence (licencié), to be followed by a
more pedagogical training – always centered on mathematics – giving them the diploma of
“agrégé” (diploma not at all comparable with the French homonym). The modalities of this more
pedagogical training have recently been broadened in the Flemish Community and are in course of
revision in the French Community.
The normal charge of a regent is generally of 22 periods/week; that of a “licencié-agrégé” is of 20
periods/week.

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http://www.emis.de/projects/Ref/doc_ems_pdf/EMS_NATIONAL_PRE...

Transflux (X)
Local time: 04:00
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 215

54 mins confidence:

holder of the agrégation

Explanation:
is what Larousse suggests, though it sounds strange to me....

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\"graduate who has passed the agrégation examination\" according to Harrap-Shorter, also sounds kind of fishy

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Webster defines \'agregation\' as:
\"a competitive examination given at French universities which must be passed for admission to the rank of agrégé\"

Jonathan MacKerron
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 963

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