Jan 7, 2015 14:26
9 yrs ago
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English term

cartridge paper

English to French Art/Literary Photography/Imaging (& Graphic Arts)
Bonjour à tous,

dans un livre sur les mangas, il est question de "cartridge paper" et de "watercolour paper" (papier aquarelle). Le texte dit que le "cartridge paper" est moins épais que le papier aquarelle et est idéal pour les crayons de couleur, les pastels et les feutres. Je n'arrive pas à trouver à quoi cela correspond en français. Du papier Canson (mais le terme "Canson paper" semble exister) ? Tout simplement du "papier à dessin" ?
Auriez-vous une idée ?
Je vous remercie de votre aide.

Discussion

Tony M Jan 12, 2015:
Yes, Anne Of course, 'cartridge paper' is so named because that would have been what it was originally used for; but there has long since been a divergence between the two types of paper and the origin of the name.
Anne Rémond (asker) Jan 12, 2015:
Papier à cartouche D'après mes recherches, "papier à cartouche" ne fonctionne que dans le contexte des munitions. Et si l'on va sur des sites de loisirs créatifs, on ne trouve aucune trace de papier à cartouche...
Tony M Jan 7, 2015:
cartridge paper Is thicker and stiffer than writing paper, and usually has a fairly smooth surface; it is the sort of paper typically used for technical drawings, back in the days when those were done with a pencil and rule! Its smooth surface is ideal for drawing with pencils (and as your context suggests also, felt-tip pens; peronally, I don't care for it for use with pastels, but each to their own!
Watercolour paper tends to be slightly thicker, possibly rougher, and more absorbent, making it ideal for use with watercolour paints, which need to be able to soak in to create their besst effect; they would tend to almost just run off the surface of cartridge paper.
'papier Canson' is pretty close, but that's what I think we used at school to call 'drawing paper' — it was possibly slightly less smooth than proper cartridge paper, though I think the differneces I observed empirically may have been more differences between specific individual products than actual generic ones.
'papier calque' usually refers to some kind of (more or less) translucent tracing paper.
Emmanuella Jan 7, 2015:
Une piste éventuelle cf. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papier_calque
Le papier calque est surtout utilisé pour dessiner ou reproduire un dessin .... Voyez les conditions d'utilisation pour plus de détails, ainsi que les crédits ...

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papier à dessiner

auparavant les craies ou pastels étaient mises dans un tube "porte crayon" dans lequel on les enfonçait et qui servait de manche et pour ne pas se salir les doigts, d'où le nom de "cartridge paper"

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http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mA_JwykHCE0I-cMUcTH1U...

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merci, contre vents et marées
Peer comment(s):

disagree B D Finch : Il n'est pas n'importe quel papier à dessiner. Votre explication est fausse, c'était utilisé pour des cartouches des armes à feu. Beaucoup trop épais pour les craies et pastels lesquels sont toujours vendus dans un tube de papier fin.
1 day 1 hr
disagree Tony M : Mere 'drawing paper' often does not have the kind of surface suitable for 'cartridge paper'
7 days
alors je ne sais pas plus : gros grain ???
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "J'ai opté finalement pour "papier à dessin", car cela correspond au niveau du grammage et des usages. Ce n'est peut-être pas exactement la même chose, mais c'est ce qui m'a semblé le plus approchant. Merci à tous."
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papier à cartouche

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I have vague memories of cartridge paper from my school days. It was usually fairly rough and thicker than jotter paper. Here's what Termium has to offer:

http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?la...
Peer comment(s):

agree Joco
12 mins
Thank you
agree TB CommuniCAT : http://gdt.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/ficheOqlf.aspx?Id_Fiche=2092943
8 hrs
Thank you
agree B D Finch
1 day 2 hrs
agree Simo Blom
1 day 3 hrs
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1 day 8 hrs

papier crayon

Declined
aussi utilisé
Peer comment(s):

disagree GILLES MEUNIER : cartridge = cartouche
15 hrs
on n'est pas à l'armée
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5 days

papier à croquis

Declined
proposé
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5 days

papier fort

Declined
According to R+C

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Major paper manufacturer Clairefontaine also mentions 'papier dessin technique' which, although long-winded, does have the advantage of being explicit:

http://www.clairefontaine.com/papier-dessin/

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Perhaps more interesting, Clairefontaine, within its descriptions of different types of 'papier dessin' (for fine arts uses) mentions 'dry and wet techniques', making the intended arts usage clearer. 'papier dessin technique' is mentioned separately from these art types.

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Found this fascianting blog article when looking for a definitive description of cartridge paper in EN:

http://makingamark.blogspot.fr/2008/09/what-is-cartridge-pap...
Note from asker:
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide, Tony.
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