Jul 12, 2021 13:37
2 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United Kingdom
Secretario
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Birth Certificate
I understand that in a court setting, "Secretario" is the "Court Clerk".
On a certificate issued by a Civil Registry, I have sometimes translated "Secretario" as the "Registrar". However, in the Spanish birth certificate that I'm currently translating, there are signatures for both the "Encargado" and the "Secretario".
I'm assuming that the "Encargado" is the more senior of the two and, therefore, is the "Registrar". However, in that case, what would be the best translation of "Secretario"? Would it simply be "Clerk"?
https://www.translatorscafe.com/tcterms/en-US/question.aspx?...
Many thanks in advance for your help.
On a certificate issued by a Civil Registry, I have sometimes translated "Secretario" as the "Registrar". However, in the Spanish birth certificate that I'm currently translating, there are signatures for both the "Encargado" and the "Secretario".
I'm assuming that the "Encargado" is the more senior of the two and, therefore, is the "Registrar". However, in that case, what would be the best translation of "Secretario"? Would it simply be "Clerk"?
https://www.translatorscafe.com/tcterms/en-US/question.aspx?...
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | secretary |
Frank Gerace
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| 3 | administrative or clerical officer |
Lisa Rosengard
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| 3 -1 | Superintendent Registrar, E+W; Clerical Officer |
Adrian MM.
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Proposed translations
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4 mins
Frank Gerace
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Competent, rapid, responsible, elegant
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, Italian to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
Selected
secretary
keep it simple. Still, I think it is more than a "clerk"
Note from asker:
| Thanks Frank. I have translated this as "Secretary" before but this can have quite a different connotation, ie someone who does typing, shorthand etc. That's why I think "Clerk" may be more appropriate in this context. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Frank. I think either "secretary" or "clerk" would fit this context."
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3 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Specializes in field
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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586
Superintendent Registrar, E+W; Clerical Officer
In the UK, a Company Secretary has no connotation of any typing or shorthand and is commonly a lawyer, including Notary Public or Accountant.
Superintendent Registrar officiates not only at weddings, but also issues birth certs.
Clerk IMO connotes either an Articled Solicitor's or Accountant's Clerk of old, or a photocopying and filing clerk. Better in any event to upgrade to 'Clerical officer'.
BTW, Encargado often equates with a Supervisor.
Superintendent Registrar officiates not only at weddings, but also issues birth certs.
Clerk IMO connotes either an Articled Solicitor's or Accountant's Clerk of old, or a photocopying and filing clerk. Better in any event to upgrade to 'Clerical officer'.
BTW, Encargado often equates with a Supervisor.
Example sentence:
The superintendent registrar is a statutory officer of the vital registration service in England and Wales.
he role of a Clerical Officer includes providing comprehensive general administrative and clerical support to a section or department.
Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintendent_registrar
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-spanish/law-patents/458814-chief-executive-officer-clerk.html
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: I disagree putting a UK Civil Service/Local Govt. grade on either of these positions. Document is from a SP-spkg jurisdiction not UK.
1 hr
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There's no point asking the quesion if the asker was going to end up using a mindless literal translation anyway.
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philgoddard
: You just don't understand translation if you're constantly telling us the UK equivalent.
12 hrs
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The asker is in the UK and you ought to remember having been married by a Superintendent Registrar in England + Wales yourself.
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6 hrs
Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
experienced and well qualified linguist
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Spanish, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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36
administrative or clerical officer
In general terms the person could be a secretary, but I believe that the person who signs the document is usually not the secretary, unless he or she signs (p/p) on behalf of the manager, lawyer or doctor. I suggest the second person is an administrative or clerical officer.
A Registrar keeps official records, or is a senior hospital doctor whose duties are less than those of a consultant.
EN: registrar = ES: un registrador / un secretario
EN: the manager = ES: el encargado
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Note added at 7 hrs (2021-07-12 20:40:11 GMT)
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The registrar's position is senior to the secretary.
A Registrar keeps official records, or is a senior hospital doctor whose duties are less than those of a consultant.
EN: registrar = ES: un registrador / un secretario
EN: the manager = ES: el encargado
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Note added at 7 hrs (2021-07-12 20:40:11 GMT)
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The registrar's position is senior to the secretary.
Note from asker:
| Hi Lisa, thanks for your answer. I've translated the "Encargado" as "Registrar" here, assuming this position is senior to the "Secretario". |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: Adrian suggested "Clerical Officer" 3 hours before you
4 mins
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