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Glossary entry

anglais term or phrase:

Hanky hem cardigan

français translation:

cardigan à ourlet mouchoir

Added to glossary by Flore Bargain
Sep 7, 2011 17:35
12 yrs ago
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anglais term

Hanky hem cardigan

anglais vers français Autre Textiles / vêtements / mode Description vêtements/accessoires
Bonjour,

Comment traduire : Hanky hem cardigan ?

Merci de votre aide,
Flore
Proposed translations (français)
2 +3 cardigan à ourlet mouchoir
References
Clain's link again

Discussion

Jocelyne Cuenin Sep 11, 2011:
Comme Frankie, je doute J'avais aussi buté sur la traduction Kudoz de scarf hem il y a peu. Pour moi ourlet foulard ou mouchoir ne veut pas dire grand chose, sinon un ourlet roulotté. Si on parle de pointes, on dit tout simplement *ourlet en pointes*, je crois. En tout cas, on le trouve souvent sous G.
Frankie JB Sep 7, 2011:
What's odd... ...in the matter is that it's not the hem which is hankie-like, not the hemline either, but the cloth per se. Plus, there seems to exist many examples of "hanky hem"-tagged tops which are not hanky-shaped (the same does not go for "scarf hems" which I think are the exact same thing...)
Frankie JB Sep 7, 2011:
@ Clain & Tony I do not disagree with what you say. But to me "ourlet mouchoir" is the exact same thing as "ourlet roulotté", and it does not fit here. If a "hanky hemline" is epitomized by this : http://www.sears.ca/product/nevada-md-slouchy-handkerchief-h... then, shouldn't it be called 'à bas en pointe' for instance (as their translation suggests)?
Tony M Sep 7, 2011:
Sadly... ...as I'm in France, I can't access the EN version of that site; however, if the only examples you can find come from ASOS, then it's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility that the translator of their site simply got it wrong.

What's more, if you look at it closely, as Clain says, you can very clearly see that the hem is not 'rolled' at all — so I'm afraid it's clear that the translator simply didn't see the pictures!
Claire Nolan Sep 7, 2011:
Concerning the mamalicious hanky hem skirt, (Frankie's last link), if you look at it up close, the hem has gussets that have the hanky points going upwards, so instead of having the points showing at the hemline, they are integrated into the skirt and the hem itself is straight-edged (it seems). It should be called a gusset skirt, I think:
http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/maxstudio.com--silk-georgett...
Frankie JB Sep 7, 2011:
@ Tony Yes, the cardigan showed at my link is rolled, the "wavy" effect proves it. Do get a glimpse at : http://www.asos.com/Mamalicious/Mamalicious-Hanky-Hem-Skirt/... please! (it's not asymmetric and it's called hankie hem! - checkmate?)
Tony M Sep 7, 2011:
@ Frankie Quite, that's why I pointed out that it really ought to be 'hemline'
Frankie JB Sep 7, 2011:
@ Tony It's not the hem style that makes a cloth asymmetric, it's the length of the fabric!
Tony M Sep 7, 2011:
Hanky hem As far as I am aware, a 'hanky' or 'handkerchief' hem is one that is not level, but comes down into one or more points (cf. a scarf dress); this is certainly what seems to be illustrated in the links provided by both Frankie and Clain.
I think in fact it ought to be 'hemline', though that is often shortened to 'hem' these days.

Proposed translations

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cardigan à ourlet mouchoir

''hanky'' = handkerchief = mouchoir

Image d'un ourlet mouchoir:

http://www.asos.fr/See-by-Chloe-See-By-Chloé-Top-en-jersey-d...
Peer comment(s):
agree Frankie JB : I am getting to think you are right. Many things remain unclear (among others the french equivalent; but it does seem we are talking about the hemline, not the "hem" indeed).
2 heures
Merci, Frankie!
agree Sheila Wilson : certainly the set of Google images are similar
14 heures
Thanks, Sheila!
agree enrico paoletti
21 heures
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "merci !"

Reference comments

41 minutes
Reference:

Clain's link again

Sadly, the link got truncated above, but I hope this will work OK here:

http://www.asos.fr/See-by-Chloe-See-By-Chloé-Top-en-jersey-d...

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Note added at 1 heure (2011-09-07 18:40:19 GMT)
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Here's a page that shows and describes a 'hanky hem(line)', albeit on a dress:

http://fashion.about.com/cs/glossary/g/bldefhankiehem.htm

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Note added at 1 heure (2011-09-07 18:41:39 GMT)
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And here are loads of images of them:

http://www.google.com/search?q="handkerchief hem"&hl=fr&biw=...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Claire Nolan : Thank you, Tony. I hadn't checked the link to see if it worked.
46 minutes
Thanks, Clain! It's always worth checking, it happens so often ;-)
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