May 5, 2008 16:54
17 yrs ago
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English term
title & proprietary rights
English to Chinese
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
XXX shall retain all title, copytight and other proprietary tights in the programs.
这里title 和 proprietary rights 都是所有权的意思，应该怎么区分呢？
这里title 和 proprietary rights 都是所有权的意思，应该怎么区分呢？
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | 产权,(著作权)与其他所有权 |
chica nueva
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| 4 | 所有权，专属权 |
LoyalTrans
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| 4 -1 | 命名权; 所有权 |
Lu Wang
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| 4 -1 | 所有權&所有人權利 |
Pamanush (X)
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| 3 -1 | 题目；所有权 |
karcsy
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Proposed translations
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chica nueva
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产权,(著作权)与其他所有权
建筑物上著作权与物权的冲突及其法律解决- [ Translate this page ]作品原件所有权与作品著作权相冲突之法律思考Jurisprudential Study of the Legal Conflict Between Proprietary Right of the Original Document and Copyright of ...
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in law, title = title to property 产权
(产权 应该是指 知识产权? intellectual property rights? )
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Note added at 6 hrs (2008-05-05 23:50:16 GMT)
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title = the ownership of property or the document evidencing such ownership (Mulholland, R.D., "Introduction to the New Zealand Legal System", Wellington, Butterworths, 1985)
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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-05-06 03:41:29 GMT)
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right now- [ Translate this page ]专利权; 专利证书. pension rights. 养老金领取权. performance right. 上演权(版权之一) ... proprietary right. 所有权. public right. 公权. publishing rights ...
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XXX or its licensors own and shall retain all right, title and interest (including without limitation all Intellectual Property Rights),
甲方或授权甲方者拥有并保留授权物的权利、所有权、利益（包括智慧财产权等
Agreement does not provide Licensee with title to or ownership of the Licensed Materials = 不含授权物的所有权
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:cWUADETKeQUJ:www.zftran...
“Intellectual Property Rights" means all copyright rights, patent rights, trademark rights, trade secret rights, moral rights, rights of publicity, authors′rights, contract and licensing rights, goodwill and all other intellectual property rights as may exist now and/or hereafter come into existence and all applications therefore and registrations, renewals, continuations, continuations in part and extensions thereof, regardless of whether such rights arise under the law of the United States or any other state, country or jurisdiction.
「智慧财产权」：现在和/或将来的所有版权、专利权、商标权、商业机密权、道德权、宣传权、原创权、授权缔约权、公信力、其他智慧财产权，以及全部应用、登记、更新、续用、部分续用、与衍生产品。根据美国或美国各州或其他国家之法律或管辖权，上述权利皆有效。
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in law, title = title to property 产权
(产权 应该是指 知识产权? intellectual property rights? )
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Note added at 6 hrs (2008-05-05 23:50:16 GMT)
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title = the ownership of property or the document evidencing such ownership (Mulholland, R.D., "Introduction to the New Zealand Legal System", Wellington, Butterworths, 1985)
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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-05-06 03:41:29 GMT)
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right now- [ Translate this page ]专利权; 专利证书. pension rights. 养老金领取权. performance right. 上演权(版权之一) ... proprietary right. 所有权. public right. 公权. publishing rights ...
dict.yqie.com/english/r/right%20now.htm - 64k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 11 hrs (2008-05-06 03:56:38 GMT)
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XXX or its licensors own and shall retain all right, title and interest (including without limitation all Intellectual Property Rights),
甲方或授权甲方者拥有并保留授权物的权利、所有权、利益（包括智慧财产权等
Agreement does not provide Licensee with title to or ownership of the Licensed Materials = 不含授权物的所有权
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:cWUADETKeQUJ:www.zftran...
“Intellectual Property Rights" means all copyright rights, patent rights, trademark rights, trade secret rights, moral rights, rights of publicity, authors′rights, contract and licensing rights, goodwill and all other intellectual property rights as may exist now and/or hereafter come into existence and all applications therefore and registrations, renewals, continuations, continuations in part and extensions thereof, regardless of whether such rights arise under the law of the United States or any other state, country or jurisdiction.
「智慧财产权」：现在和/或将来的所有版权、专利权、商标权、商业机密权、道德权、宣传权、原创权、授权缔约权、公信力、其他智慧财产权，以及全部应用、登记、更新、续用、部分续用、与衍生产品。根据美国或美国各州或其他国家之法律或管辖权，上述权利皆有效。
Note from asker:
| it's computer programs. the xx company developed the programs and the reseller sells it. Thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
orientalhorizon
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Pamanush (X)
: lai an, pls stop copying text from random internet sites, people that put those things up are probably some low level law firm employee who does not know better, we need to understand issues rather than copy and paste things. cheers
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Thank you!
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Comment: "Thanks！"
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命名权; 所有权
给予名称的权利
Peer comment(s):
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chica nueva
: I am not a lawyer, but IMO in law, title = title to property 产权; 命名权 = naming rights
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"title" might be literally paraphrased here as the name of the program such as "Windows", I suspect.
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Pamanush (X)
: title的解释lai an说的没错。我是lawyer，title不是题目，这里看更不应该是
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所有權&所有人權利
因为是法律概念，从所给出的上下文来看，这是比较好的解释。其实律师起草或翻译这类文字时不想一般人想的一样要扣字眼。英美法系最大的好处是不拘一格，而大陆法系以及我党法系我就没经验了。说会翻译法律文书，最重要是理解其本身意义。就像是提问者的前一个问题，本来transfer和assignment意义不同，但中文都使用“转让”来表达，关键不是“转让”行不行，而是翻译人有没有理解transfer和assignment。理解了，翻译出来的全文才好，不理解，扮理解效果不会很好，不过很多情况下可能以够用了。讨论讨论
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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-05-06 03:28:21 GMT)
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aw in a couple of English speaking jurisdictions and I practice intellectual property law.
While PROPRIETARY RIGHT could indeed mean intellectual property rights but not necessarily that way. If you guys want I can list some bilingual legal sites but I can't be sure if that would help as it is shown here that some people simply search for any existing translation without any understanding of the issues involved, again you may be right sometimes, but bond to wrong too.
Title in relation to land is often translated as 产权， while in connection with chattels/personal properties, title is I suppose better called 所有权. They are the same thing in many more than one way. Epistemologically speaking 产权 and所有权 are the same concept derived from human desire to owe things by excluding others and consume exclusively for oneself and such others as one would allow to enjoy.
Come on. English is easy if you could think, try to forget lots of the formalities in your life and think for once. Or am I asking too much in a room full of translators like us? lol
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In the beginning of the previous added note I meant to give out that I am a qualified lawyer in ....
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Note added at 11 hrs (2008-05-06 04:37:15 GMT)
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http://www.legislation.gov.hk/eng/glossary/homeglos.htm is a good site. It contains the glossary of HK legislations (which have for a while been done in English and Chinese). It is a good site but does not guarantee accuracy. check out the original place and context one translation is given is important. In this present site you could try to read the actually law to ascertain what it means. www.hklii.org is a good site to read all HK legislations
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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-05-06 03:28:21 GMT)
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aw in a couple of English speaking jurisdictions and I practice intellectual property law.
While PROPRIETARY RIGHT could indeed mean intellectual property rights but not necessarily that way. If you guys want I can list some bilingual legal sites but I can't be sure if that would help as it is shown here that some people simply search for any existing translation without any understanding of the issues involved, again you may be right sometimes, but bond to wrong too.
Title in relation to land is often translated as 产权， while in connection with chattels/personal properties, title is I suppose better called 所有权. They are the same thing in many more than one way. Epistemologically speaking 产权 and所有权 are the same concept derived from human desire to owe things by excluding others and consume exclusively for oneself and such others as one would allow to enjoy.
Come on. English is easy if you could think, try to forget lots of the formalities in your life and think for once. Or am I asking too much in a room full of translators like us? lol
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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-05-06 03:31:10 GMT)
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In the beginning of the previous added note I meant to give out that I am a qualified lawyer in ....
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Note added at 11 hrs (2008-05-06 04:37:15 GMT)
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http://www.legislation.gov.hk/eng/glossary/homeglos.htm is a good site. It contains the glossary of HK legislations (which have for a while been done in English and Chinese). It is a good site but does not guarantee accuracy. check out the original place and context one translation is given is important. In this present site you could try to read the actually law to ascertain what it means. www.hklii.org is a good site to read all HK legislations
14 hrs
LoyalTrans
Native in Chinese
Specializes in field
Legal/Finance translator, 9 years exp
Native in: Chinese 
Works in: English to Chinese, Chinese to English
Related KudoZ points
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所有权，专属权
我不是律师，但我对proprietary的理解是特别/专属于自己的，换言之别人是没有这种权利的。以前在律所时proprietary rights 一直都翻译成“专属权”。供参考。
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1 hr
题目；所有权
应该是指节目的题目，版权和所有权。
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2008-05-06 19:22:14 GMT)
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Asker: it's computer programs. the xx company developed the programs and the reseller sells it.
Since it's a computer program, then it should have a name (title), copyright & other proprietary rights.
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2008-05-06 19:22:14 GMT)
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Asker: it's computer programs. the xx company developed the programs and the reseller sells it.
Since it's a computer program, then it should have a name (title), copyright & other proprietary rights.
Peer comment(s):
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chica nueva
: IMO in law, title = title to property 产权 (copyright = 著作权)
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The question is about computer program, what do you think?
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Pamanush (X)
: title的解释lai an说的没错。：） 88
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The question is about computer program, what do you think?
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