Jul 23, 2005 21:49
19 yrs ago
Spanish term

hurón

Spanish to English Art/Literary Slang Seville rap
I am translating a Castilian Spanish (Sevilla) rap:

"No todo un hurón de pelo, viejo emancipado, puede ser un gorila que hable..."

Hurón is the one I am most stuck on, but since the pun extends to the whole line (or so I imagine from the use of gorila) I would welcome insight on the rest of it as well.
TIA
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 i'd say >weasel< --within the context
4 +1 shy, reserved, unsociable//snooper
4 +1 a ferret
4 +1 marten

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Jul 23, 2005:
Thanks - I'm trying to find another animal pun in English to go along with the dictionary definition I had already found. "Monkey" and "monkey with" is a possibility. I'm open to more or other ideas.
MPGS Jul 23, 2005:
Original is broken Spanish. Doesn't make any sense (except for very poetic decoders)neitherin the form nor meaning. So any translation is acceptable but wrong.
(A very personal SAturday-night oppinion)
:)
Non-ProZ.com Jul 23, 2005:
more context This is the next line:
"Todo hurón viejo que alcanza la copa del árbol, sino trébol, ventana."

as far as I can tell these are amateur rappers from Sevilla.

Proposed translations

+1
49 mins
Selected

i'd say >weasel< --within the context

monkey with this!
Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : that's sounds great
2 mins
thnx!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone for such quick responses. Weasel worked out very well!"
+1
7 mins

shy, reserved, unsociable//snooper

Hola Casey,
Estas son algunas opciones que da el Simon & Schuster's en sentido coloquial.
Buena suerte y saludos del Oso ¶:^)

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Note added at 2005-07-23 21:58:26 (GMT)
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hurón adj. 1. shy, reserved, unsociable person 2. prier, snooper 3. (zool. ) ferret
Simon & Schuster\'s Bilingual Dictionary©

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Note added at 2005-07-23 21:59:20 (GMT)
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hurón
2. m. coloq. Persona que averigua y descubre lo escondido y secreto.
3. m. coloq. Persona huraña. U. t. c. adj.
DRAE©
Peer comment(s):

agree sonja29 (X)
17 hrs
Muchas gracias, sonja29 ¶:^)
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+1
7 mins
Spanish term (edited): hur�n

a ferret

My husband is from Seville..He doesn't know it as slang..so I dunno

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Note added at 8 mins (2005-07-23 21:57:20 GMT)
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a ferret is a fast animal
Peer comment(s):

agree MPGS : the animal is a ferret. they don't climb trees :) ... I'm afraid you are right :)
10 mins
the writers are probably clueless about the habits of ferrets..:)
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+1
1 hr
Spanish term (edited): hur�n

marten

I think "hurón" has the sense of solitary, experienced hunter, it is often used in the combination "viejo hurón".
ADW: Martes martes: Information - [ Traduzca esta página ]
The pine marten is omnivorous. It favors animal food, relying on small ...
Martens are skillful treetop hunters, racing on thin, swinging branches and ...
animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/ site/accounts/information/Martes_martes.html - 35k - En caché - Páginas similares
American Marten - [ Traduzca esta página ]
They're solitary but curious animals. Click image at left to view marten tracks. American martens live in mature, dense conifer forests or mixed ...
www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/ land/er/factsheets/mammals/Marten.htm - 21k - 22 Jul 2005 - En caché - Páginas similares
Animal Planet :: Mammal Guide -- Northern Coniferous - [ Traduzca esta página ]
Pine Marten. This agile climber is most active during evenings and mornings, when it hunts a variety of animals, including birds, squirrels, small rodents, ...
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DELICAO, -á. -aos, -ás.
De 'delicado', del latín 'delicatus'.
(adj. y nom.) (Muchos sitios) Escrupuloso. Que siente aprensión o asco por muchas cosas.
¡Con lo delicao que eras de chico y ahora te comes lo más raro que te pongan!
http://usuarios.lycos.es/lacasadelarbol/3LetraD.htm
'El habla de Jaén'
DRA
hurón.(Del b. lat. furo, -ōnis).1. m. Mamífero carnicero de unos 20 cm de largo desde la cabeza hasta el arranque de la cola, la cual mide 1 dm aproximadamente. Tiene el cuerpo muy flexible y prolongado, la cabeza pequeña, las patas cortas, el pelaje gris más o menos rojizo, y glándulas anales que despiden un olor sumamente desagradable. Se emplea para la caza de conejos porque se mete en sus madrigueras.2. m. coloq. Persona que averigua y descubre lo escondido y secreto.3. m. coloq. Persona huraña. U. t. c. ad

• Ser alguien o algo más delicao que el Niño la Carrera.
Este vecino de la Carrera (oficialmente calle de Bernabé Soriano) de Jaén, se hizo popular por ser muy remilgado con su atavío (v. DFNJ, pág. 149).
(Jaén capital)
¡Eres más delicao que el Niño la Carrera, que por no mancharte no comes fruta!

***• Ser alguien o algo más delicao que mierda hurón.
¡No se te puede hacer una broma, eres más delicá que mierda hurón!***

(frs.) (col.) Ser demasiado frágil, chinchorrero, susceptible o escrupuloso.



Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : oops yes...martens not ferrets, right!
15 hrs
Thx Jane!
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