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let olive establish crown and king restore church

Italian translation: Fa che sia un ulivo a stabilire la corona ed un re a rifondare la Chiesa

16:01 Aug 10, 2007
English to Italian translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - History / Bath Abbey
English term or phrase: let olive establish crown and king restore church
It's a motto used by Bishop Oliver king when he decided to restore Bath Abbey in 1499.
Cheekita
Local time: 18:46
Italian translation:Fa che sia un ulivo a stabilire la corona ed un re a rifondare la Chiesa
Explanation:
Wikipedia: "Oliver King had a dream in which he saw a host of Angels on a ladder, the Holy Trinity and an olive tree with a crown on it". Therefore I think it refers to the olive tree and not to Oliver.
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Salvatore Rossi
Italy
Local time: 19:46
Grading comment
grazie mille!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



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4 +3Fa che sia un ulivo a stabilire la corona ed un re a rifondare la Chiesa
Salvatore Rossi


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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Fa che sia un ulivo a stabilire la corona ed un re a rifondare la Chiesa


Explanation:
Wikipedia: "Oliver King had a dream in which he saw a host of Angels on a ladder, the Holy Trinity and an olive tree with a crown on it". Therefore I think it refers to the olive tree and not to Oliver.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_King
Salvatore Rossi
Italy
Local time: 19:46
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PRO pts in category: 7
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grazie mille!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Umberto Cassano
14 mins
  -> Grazie Umberto! Rimane il fatto, però, che la tua interpretazione circa il gioco Olive-Oliver è molto bella e valida e dimostra che non è mai facile tradurre motti come questo.
agree  P.L.F. Persio
1 hr
  -> Grazie Sofia!
agree  Milena Cardaci: Concordo e anche se in Italiano viene perso, per i meno informati, il gioco di parole, direi che l'italiano utilizzato da Salvatore è ottimo (Magari lascerei la fedeltà di LASCIA CHE SIA piuttosto che FA CHE SIA). Ciao
1 day 18 hrs
  -> Grazie Milena! Hai ragione sul gioco di parole, così come ho detto anche ad Umberto, ma essendo un motto troppo radicato nella cultura della L1 devi per forza accettare la perdita del gioco di parole nella traduzione...
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