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English term or phrase:

in

Malay translation:

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Added to glossary by Fatimah Hassan
Oct 23, 2004 12:46
22 yrs ago
English term

in

Non-PRO English to Malay Art/Literary Linguistics
when do you use "di", "dalam" and "di dalam"? and what's the difference between them? are there any rules? tq

Discussion

Ramona Ali Oct 24, 2004:
You ought to get a copy of Tatabahasa Dewan. It clearly explains when to use and when not to use 'di' in front of 'dalam', 'atas', 'antara', etc. Basically 'di' is a kata arah and omitted only in the abstract sense.

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refer explaination

"di" for tempat (place)
e.g
Kami suka duduk di rumah.
Jangan bermain di tepi jalan.

"di dalam" digunakan untuk sesuatu yang mempunyai ruang(space)
e.g
Di dalam sungai ini ada banyak udang.
Dia menyimpan buku di dalam laci.
(both sungai and laci mempunyai ruang)

"dalam" digunakan apabila tiada ruang(space)
e.g
Banyak perkara dibincangkan dalam mesyuarat itu.
Dia gagal dalam peperiksaan.
(both mesyuarat and peperiksaan tidak mempunyai ruang/space)



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agree Ramona Ali : Absolutely!
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di dalam - refer explanation

I think this issue had been discussed by (Dr) Darwis Harahap (USM Malay Language Lecturer)
Here is what he came up with ( if I remember correctly):

1. Dalam = adjective (Kata Sifat) = deep

2. di dalam = kata arah (direction) = mean something inside

Ex.
1. Bukunya disimpan di dalam almari. (correct)
2. Bukunya disimpan dalam almari. (wrong)

1. Telaga itu sangat dalam.(correct)
2. Telaga itu sangat di dalam. (wrong)

However, I don't really know where DBP stand on this now. DBP was controlled by Nik Safiah and Farid M. Onn group before when they came up with Tatabahasa Dewan and I believe they don't differentiate between the two words.
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