Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Danish term or phrase:
sygehus
English translation:
clinic
Added to glossary by
Christian Schoenberg
Mar 4, 2005 23:42
21 yrs ago
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sygehus
Hi everyone,
Here is an interesting question (I hope): I am looking at Danish tax law right now, and for some reason this document seems to makes a distinction between "hospitaler" and "sygehuse". Here is the full sentence:
Skoler, hospitaler, sygehuse, statsanerkendte rekonvalescenthjem, døgninstitutioner for børn og unge og offentligt godkendte opholdssteder for børn og unge, biblioteker under offentligt tilsyn og offentligt tilgængelige museer, alt for så vidt de er selvejende institutioner, og indtægterne udelukkende kan anvendes til den pågældende institutions formål.
Does anyone have any idea why they make that distinction? If so, how does one make the distinction in the translated document.
Here is an interesting question (I hope): I am looking at Danish tax law right now, and for some reason this document seems to makes a distinction between "hospitaler" and "sygehuse". Here is the full sentence:
Skoler, hospitaler, sygehuse, statsanerkendte rekonvalescenthjem, døgninstitutioner for børn og unge og offentligt godkendte opholdssteder for børn og unge, biblioteker under offentligt tilsyn og offentligt tilgængelige museer, alt for så vidt de er selvejende institutioner, og indtægterne udelukkende kan anvendes til den pågældende institutions formål.
Does anyone have any idea why they make that distinction? If so, how does one make the distinction in the translated document.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | clinic |
Sven Petersson
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| 3 | hospital |
Dana Sackett Lössl
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| 2 | hospital, hospice osv. |
Suzanne Blangsted (X)
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Proposed translations
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Sven Petersson
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clinic
Normally one would translate "sygehus" with "hospital", but in your context "clinic" fits better.
The difference between the meaning of the Danish words "hospital" and "sygehus" is minute: "Hospitaler" do, per definition, provide inpatient facilities for the 24-hour care; "sygehuser" may, or may not, provide such care.
Thus: "hospitaler, sygehus, ..." > "hospitals, clinics, ..."
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Note added at 8 hrs 21 mins (2005-03-05 08:03:46 GMT)
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For this very reason one defines a \"hospice\" as a \"terminalhospital\", not as a \"terminalsygehus\". See BLANGSTED\'s answer!
The difference between the meaning of the Danish words "hospital" and "sygehus" is minute: "Hospitaler" do, per definition, provide inpatient facilities for the 24-hour care; "sygehuser" may, or may not, provide such care.
Thus: "hospitaler, sygehus, ..." > "hospitals, clinics, ..."
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Note added at 8 hrs 21 mins (2005-03-05 08:03:46 GMT)
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For this very reason one defines a \"hospice\" as a \"terminalhospital\", not as a \"terminalsygehus\". See BLANGSTED\'s answer!
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks so much..."
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Dana Sackett Lössl
Denmark
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Works in: Danish to English, Norwegian to English, Swedish to English, and 3 more.
hospital
Hi Christian. The Danes I asked say there is no difference. MAYBE (only maybe) one thinks of a hospital as being a little bigger. In my Nudansk Ordbog, the first and only definition they give of hospital is sygehus... Do they call Rigshospitalet a "hospital" because the word is deemed more elegant (from French)and it is the nation's main hospital?? Skejby Sygehus is about as big, but it is a sygehus...
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I think they differentiate, just because some are called sygehus and others are called hospital.
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I think they differentiate, just because some are called sygehus and others are called hospital.
5 hrs
hospital, hospice osv.
NuDansk ordbog har sygehus og hospital som det samme, men der er også hospice, subst. -t, -r, -rne 1. et sted hvor uhelbredeligt syge og døende mennesker tilbydes lindrende pleje og behandling = TERMINALHOSPITAL - komme på hospice · der er ti pladser på det nye hospice e hospiceophold ! hos/pic+e ¯ engelsk ¯ fransk hospice 'herberg' ¯ latin hospitium 'herberg, kro, gæsteværelse
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Clinic er oversat til klinik og i den danske medicinske ordbog betyder \"An outpatient or ambulatory care facility, often located at a hospital\". Derfor mener jeg det ikke er det samme som hospital eller sygehus. Hospice er\"a facility that provices palliative and supportive car for terminally ill patients\".
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Note added at 16 hrs 44 mins (2005-03-05 16:26:50 GMT)
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Clinic er oversat til klinik og i den danske medicinske ordbog betyder \"An outpatient or ambulatory care facility, often located at a hospital\". Derfor mener jeg det ikke er det samme som hospital eller sygehus. Hospice er\"a facility that provices palliative and supportive car for terminally ill patients\".
Discussion
I have carefully considered your proposal and can but conclude that it would be a mistranslation. A "Psykiatrisk Hospital" could for example not be "general". Do you think the Mayo clinic in Rochester with 1595 phycisians is "small"?
Der er variationer som f�lge af religi�se ordeners tidlige involvering i etableringen af sygehusdrift, bysamfundenes st�rrelse og placering, og specialiserede pleje- og behandlingshospitaler som fx sanatorier, der traditionelt er anbragt ved kyst eller skov. Men generelt er sygehuset lokalt, mindre af st�rrelse, t�t p� borgerne og et kendt forankringspunkt i tilf�lde af sygdom eller ulykke, som ofte indeb�rer l�ngerevarende ophold med dertil knyttet pleje og omsorg. Denne udgave af sygehuset har r�dder helt tilbage til institutionens tidlige etableringsfase og indeb�rer samtidig en almindelig og respektabel slutposition i det l�gelige karrieresystem: overl�gen som chef for et provinshospital og en person, der er med til at konstituere k�bstadssamfundet.
He includes a definition from "Fakta" Gyldendals Etbinds Leksikon. K�benhavn 1988,p. 515):
�hospital: i Danmark et sygehus der ledes af en overl�ge og har mulighed for indl�ggelse af patienter.�
So, what does everyone think of the translation distinction of simply "general hospital"/"local hospital". Comments?
By the way, thanks for your suggestions :-)
Christian