Jun 26, 2012 20:07
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English term

Booting, mid-boot, late-boot

English to Dutch Science Botany Groeifases plant
Development of harvestable vegetative plant parts or vegetatively propagated organs/booting (main shoot)
Flag leaf sheath just visibly swollen (mid-boot)
Flag leaf sheath swollen (late-boot)

Discussion

Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 6, 2022:
By the way, this 'aarzwelling' must refer to the growth/swelling of the nascent ear within the flag leaf sheath.

It is just a matter of focus/emphasis whether you call it 'zwelling van de schede' or 'zwelling van de aar'.


43 - Bladschede van vlagblad begint op te zwellen
45 - Bladschede van vlagblad opgezwollen
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 6, 2022:
@Michael As far as the word 'booting'/ 'boot' is concerned, I still believe it refers to the 'bladschede'.

However, if someone can find other evidence about the meaning of 'booting' / 'in boot' / 'booting stage', I would would be very curious to hear about it.
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 6, 2022:
@Michael The info in your reference deviates from what you consistently find, that is:

'booting' is the last category in the extension/elongation stage or is presented as a separate stage directly following the extension stage.

The first sentence of your reference suggests that 'booting' refers to 'stengelstrekking', that is, to 'stem elongation'.

This seems to me to be incorrect

As far as the other two sentences of your reference are concerned, these do refer to what normally is called the booting stage, but 'aarzwelling' deviates from the translations in the Zadoks-schaal:

43 - Bladschede van vlagblad begint op te zwellen
45 - Bladschede van vlagblad opgezwollen

However, you can find that 'aarzwelling is used for 43 and 45.
So these seem to be valid options.

The are talking about the 'decimale code':

4 Aarzwelling (stage)

41 vlagbladschede gestrekt
43 aarzwelling net zichtbaar
45 aarzwelling duidelijk zichtbaar
47 vlagbladschede opent zich
49 eerste naalden zichtbaar (alleen bij
gebaarde vormen)

https://www.lcg.be/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Ontwikkelingss...
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 6, 2022:
@ Michael For some strange reason your D-box entries never reach me.
I see it now since I wanted to add something.

As follows.

Dutch translation of the 'Zadoks-schaal'. Zadoks was actually a Dutch person who worked at Wageningen University.

Zadoks names de 'booting stage' 'Aar drempel'

Aar drempel

41 - Bladschede van vlagblad wordt langer
43 - Bladschede van vlagblad begint op te zwellen
45 - Bladschede van vlagblad opgezwollen
47 - Bladschede van vlagblad opent zich

He names the next stage: Opkomst aar

See:

https://www.yara.nl/gewasvoeding/tarwe/groeistadia-van-tarwe...
Michael Beijer Jun 2, 2022:
all instances of "booting" in wur.nl file file: Development of a datadictionary to describe data of variety experiments" (W.A. Dekkers)

see:
https://research.wur.nl/en/publications/development-of-a-dat...
http://edepot.wur.nl/350821

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Development of harvestable vegetative piantparts, booting (main shoot) =
Ontwikkeling van oogstbare vegetatieve plantendelen of schieten van de hoofdstengel

Harvestable vegetative plant parts have reached 30% of final size, flag leaf sheath just visibly swollen (mid boot) =
Oogstbare vegetatieve plantendelen 30 % van maximum, aarzwelling net zichtbaar

Harvestable vegetative plantparts have reached 50% of final size, flag leaf sheath swollen (late boot) =
Oogstbare vegetatieve plantendelen 50 % van maximum, aarzwelling duidelijk zichtbaar
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 2, 2022:
continued It is correct that 'booting' / 'in boot' / 'booting stage' in most cases is categorized as late extension/elongation.

However, since 'mid-boot' = 43 and 'late-boot' = 45, and both are considered to be part of the booting stage', 'late extension/elongation stage' (late strekkingsfase) no longer works as a translation, as you would no longer be able to distinguish between 'mid-boot' and 'late-boot'.

In that case the following would be an option:

mid-boot --> mid-schedefase
late-boot --> late schedefase

Although justifiable translations, you won't find this terminology on Google.

If this is considered to be a problem, you may opt to leave 'boot' untranslated and go for:

mid-'boot'-fase
late 'boot'-fase
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 1, 2022:
Voor de volledigheid 'booting' (verschijning van de schede) is de laatste categorie in de 'strekkingsfase' (elongation /extension stage), maar wordt ook als een aparte fase opgevoerd (boot / booting stage)

In beide gevallen gaat het om Feekes 10 / Zadoks 41-49

Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 1, 2022:
Just found it :-) late-boot --> late strekkingsfase

See:

Zadoks 49 pluimzwelling vlagbladschede sterk opgezwollen

https://lv.vlaanderen.be/sites/default/files/attachments/tee...
Michael Beijer Jun 1, 2022:
Has anyone managed to solve this yet? I'm currently working on this phrase in a patent application from English into Dutch:

45 = G=Flag leaf sheath swollen (late-boot); =
45 = G=Vlagbladschede gezwollen (late ‘boot’);

I think I have "Flag leaf sheath swollen" figured out, but I'm still puzzling over what to do about "late-boot".
Ghislaine Giebels (X) (asker) Jun 27, 2012:
Dankjewel. Dat brengt me alweer een stapje verder. Bedankt voor het meedenken!
Sylvy Notermans Jun 27, 2012:
Ik weet er verder weinig van, helaas. Het zou ideaal zijn om deze schaal in het Nederlands te vinden, maar online vind ik daar geen duidelijk overzicht van. In de producten van Bayer (een van de sponsors) worden de verschillende stadia wel vermeld, maar dan zou je heel precies moeten kijken welk stadium overeenkomt met de "Booting"-fase...

bijv:
2- tot 3-bladstadium (BBCH 13)
uitstoelingsfase tot begin bloei (BBCH 25-61)
moment dat de onkruidgrassen gaan schieten (BBCH 30)
eerste knoopstadium in stengelstrekkingsfase (BBCH 31)
tweede knoopstadium in stengelstrekkingsfase (BBCH 32)
vlagbladtoepassing (BBCH 37-39)
volledig ontwikkeld vlagblad tot het in de aar komen (BBCH 39-55)
einde bloei (BBCH 55-69)

(via een zoekopdracht "BBCH" op http://www.bayercropscience.nl/)
Ghislaine Giebels (X) (asker) Jun 27, 2012:
Hoi SylvyN,

Bedankt voor je goede tip. De vertaling gaat over de BBCH-scale (Hack et al., 1992). Hij lijkt op de schaal waarheen jij verwijst. Ook met allemaal groeifases en nummers.

Op wiki staat er het volgende over: The BBCH-scale is a scale used to identify the phenological development stages of a plant.

BBCH officially stands for "Biologische Bundesanstalt, Bundessortenamt und CHemische Industrie". The abbreviation of the scale is also said to unofficially represent the four companies that initially sponsored its development; Bayer, BASF, Ciba-Geigy and Hoechst. [2]

Ooit van deze schaal gehoord?

Reference comments

15 hrs
Reference:

Verwijzingen Zadoks

Dit lijkt te wijzen op de schaal van Zadoks voor plantenontwikkelingsstadia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zadoks_scale

Op de onderstaande link wordt duidelijk naar deze stadia verwezen:

http://www.kennisakker.nl/kenniscentrum/document/ontwikkelin...

'Booting' lijkt overeen te komen met de strekkingsfase:

strekkingsfase
begin strekking (oprichting hoofdstengel)
vlagbladstadium (vlagblad volledig uitgegroeid)
pluimzwelling (vlagbladschede sterk opgezwollen)

Geenszins zeker dus, maar misschien helpt dit je verder met het vinden van de juiste terminologie?
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Barend van Zadelhoff : late-boot = late strekkingsfase
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https://pestweb.montana.edu/Owbm/Home/Info/2
The boot stage is the earliest growth stage that we are concerned about. The midge does not cause any crop damage during the boot stage, but it is at this stage that monitoring efforts should begin. Early boot is characterized by a swollen leaf sheath below the flag leaf. Late boot is characterized by the flag leaf sheath opening and awns becoming visible at the leaf collar. Late boot stage is pictured.

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https://forages.oregonstate.edu/regrowth/how-does-grass-grow...

Boot stage

Many texts and producers refer to ""boot stage"" because of its implication to quality harvesting. The boot stage is defined as the time when the seedhead is enclosed within the sheath of the flag leaf. It is one part of the reproductive phase

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Understanding of Growth Stages is Critical in Rice Production
https://www.lsuagcenter.com › features › publications
17 May 2012 — As it does, ****the growth stage is referred to as booting**** and identified by the length of the panicle. When the panicle is up to 2 inches in length ...

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so "growth stage"?? could you search for something in Dutch
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