Mar 8, 2016 16:26
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English term

a counter-offset signal

English to French Tech/Engineering Electronics / Elect Eng (in a patent) A method for providing temperature-countering compensation to a sensing signal
a first circuit for generating a counter-offset that is to be subtracted from a sensor output signal to thereby
remove temperature dependent offset;

counter-compensation is provided for the temperature dependency of the sensor offset component by generating a
counter-offset signal, Voff(T) per equation Eq. 7:
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Johannes Gleim Mar 9, 2016:
@ Tony 'compensation’ is always the ‘opposite sense for something', but ‘counter-compensation’ is the opposite of the opposite.
This reminds me the difference between positive feedback and negative feedback. Negative feedback will compensate, but positive feedback will amplify the error.
Same as with action vs. counter-action, pressure vs. counter-pressure, evidence vs. counter-evidence, question vs. counter-question, inductance vs. compensating mutual inductance, leg of right angle (cathetus) vs.opposite leg, modulation vs. inverse modulation, phase vs. paraphase, clockwise vs. anticlockwise.

As ‘compensation’ and ‘counter-compensation’ describe the same technique, I deem it tautologous, contrary to the a.m. cited pairs of opposite terms.

See also my reference comment
Tony M Mar 8, 2016:
@ Johannes 'Counter-compensation' is a perfectly valid and in fact quite common term. It just means 'compensation in the opposite sense for something' — so if a component has a positive temperature co-efficient, then the counter-ciompensation will need to have a negative temperature co-efficient to compensate it out.
Johannes Gleim Mar 8, 2016:
counter-compensation is no valid term. An positve offset can be compensated by adding a negative value of same size or the inverted offset or by subtracting the offset from the offset. counter-compensation can be understood as additional offset (minus by minus equals plus). This is certainly not the intention.

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signal de neutralisation de décalage

Dans l'esprit torturé de l'auteur on fait une équation compliquée EQ 7 pour rendre "simple" un décalage qu'on voudrait constant mais qui ne l'est pas

Le signal de neutralisation Voff(T) vise à contrer la variation en température du décalage du capteur
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signal de décalage inversé (signal décalé inversement)

It's not easy to find an appropriate term in French. We only can base on releable translations for "offset"= "décalage", but no translation was found for "counter-offset", only circumscriptions.

Area Electrical and electronic measurements - Types of electrical measuring instruments / Transducers
IEV ref 313-03-10
en transducer with offset zero, transducer with live zero
transducer which gives a predetermined output other than zero when the measurand is zero

fr transducteur à zéro décalé, m
transducteur dont le signal de sortie a une valeur prédéterminée différente de zéro lorsque le mesurande a une valeur nulle
http://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&iev...

Area Piezoelectric devices for frequency control and selection / Piezoelectric filters
IEV ref 561-03-09
en frequency offset
frequency difference, positive or negative, which should be added to the specified nominal frequency of the oscillator, when adjusting the oscillator frequency under a particular set of operating conditions in order to minimize its deviation from the nominal frequency over the specified range of operating conditions

Note 1 to entry: In order to minimize the frequency deviation from the nominal deviation over the entire temperature range, a frequency offset may be specified for adjustment at the reference temperature (see Figure 18).

fr décalage de fréquence, m
différence positive ou négative de fréquence qu'il convient d'ajouter à la fréquence nominale spécifiée de l'oscillateur lorsqu'on ajuste la fréquence de cet oscillateur pour un cas particulier de conditions de fonctionnement afin de minimiser les écarts par rapport à la fréquence nominale dans une plage spécifiée des conditions de fonctionnement

Note 1 à l’article: Pour minimiser les écarts de fréquence par rapport à la fréquence nominale dans toute la gamme des températures, un décalage de fréquence peut être indiqué pour procéder à un ajustement à la température de référence (voir Figure 18).
http://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&iev...

“counter-offset” is a opposite, negative or inverted offset (same size, but inversed direction), added to the offset.
Compensation de l'offset d'entrée
Courant de polarisation
Réduction de l'offset due aux courants de polarisation.

Les courants de polarisation (notés Ie- et Ie+ sur la figure ci-contre) créent une chute de tension aux bornes des composants du circuit, créant ainsi une tension d'offset. Il est possible de réduire cette tension d'offset en insérant entre le zéro et l'entrée non-inverseuse une résistance R3 de même valeur que la résistance équivalente du circuit vue de l'entrée inverseuse. De cette façon, on crée une chute de tension équivalente entre les deux entrées de l'AOP.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplificateur_opérationnel

Ces boucles de compensation de décalage séparées peuvent être utilisées pour compenser indépendamment les décalages différents pour chaque trajet.
The separate offset compensation loops can be used to independently compensate for offsets that are different for each path.

Ce procédé permet d'obtenir un meilleur TEB tout en gardant une plage de compensation de décalage de fréquence suffisante.
According to this method, a preferable BER characteristic can be realized while maintaining a sufficient frequency offset compensation range.
http://context.reverso.net/traduction/francais-anglais/compe...

Agencement de circuits compensant le decalage d'un signal alternatif applique a une entree dudit actionnement
http://www.google.com.na/patents/WO1995022207A1?cl=fr
Circuit arrangement for compensating the offset of an a.c. signal applied to one input thereof
2 is a circuit for signal amplification, such as referred to a comparator amplifier, or the like, which amplifies the offset proportion of the output signal s, and thus the inversion integrator circuit is driven at its input with a reinforced, corresponding to the offset signal.
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This necessary negative feedback can be achieved for example by an inverter 18. In this embodiment, a counter are used with short lengths counter, where appropriate, all the counter outputs can be fed to the D/A converter 17.
http://www.google.com.na/patents/WO1995022207A1?cl=en&hl=de
(both translated from German)

Résonateur à microbande HF comportant une microbande coudée (10), qui est disposée à une distance de consigne (dS) par rapport à un conducteur (11), caractérisé par le fait que la courbure de la microbande (10) est telle que le décalage de la fréquence de résonance, provoqué par effet capacitif résultant d'une différence entre une distance réelle (dS±¿dS) et la distance de consigne (dS), est compensé par un décalage inverse d'importance sensiblement égale de la fréquence de résonance, provoqué par effet inductif.
v3.espacenet.com
RF strip line resonator, having a curved strip line (10) which is arranged at a reference distance (dS) from a conductor (11), characterized in that the curvature of the strip line (10) is dimensioned such that the displacement in the resonant frequency which is capacitively caused as a result of a deviation in distance between an actual distance (dS±¿dS) and the reference distance (dS) is counteracted by an approximately equal inverse inductively caused displacement in the resonant frequency.
v3.espacenet.com

Reverse Offset
(Offset du délai inversé) Applique un décalage au délai inversé compris entre 0 et 200ms.
cem3374.com
Offsets the Reverse Delay with 0-200ms.
cem3374.com
http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/traduction/décalage i...

Balayage semi-circulaire à décalage inversé pour champ de vision 3d agrandi
http://www.google.fr/patents/EP2375989A2?cl=fr
Semicircular inversed offset scanning for enlarged field of view 3d
http://www.google.fr/patents/EP2375989A2?cl=en&hl=de

1. Registre à décalage bidirectionnel, comprenant :
une source (101, figure 1) d'une pluralité de signaux d'horloge déphasés (C1, C2, C3) ayant une première relation de phase entre eux (figures 3a à 3c), quand un premier sens de décalage est sélectionné, et ayant une deuxième relation de phase entre eux (figures 4a à 4c), quand un sens opposé de décalage est sélectionné ;
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3. …quand ledit sens de décalage opposé est sélectionné.
http://www.google.com/patents/EP0943146B1?cl=fr
1. A bi-directional shift register, comprising:
a source (101, Fig. 1) of a plurality of phase shifted clock signals (C1, C2, C3) having a first phase relationship there between (Figures 3a-3c), when a first direction of shifting is selected, and having a second phase relationship there between (Figures 4a-4c), when an opposite direction of shifting is selected;
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3. …when said opposite shifting direction is selected.
http://www.google.com/patents/EP0943146B1?cl=en&hl=de
(Source : Thomson multimedia SA)

Dans le cas en phase, une re´ponse accrue de l’amplitude survient pendant une vitesse de rotation
moins e´leve´e, et l’accroissement e´tait de fac¸on line´aire proportionnelle a` la valeur du de´calage.
Pour ce qui est du cas hors-phase, l’accroissement de la re´ponse e´tait insignifiant, laissant
supposer qu’un de´calage oppose´ annulerait une re´ponse accrue du de´calage pre´ce´dent.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

... puisque le décalage du DDM vers la droite n'est pas compensé par un décalage opposé du DDV.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

2. Procédé selon la revendication 1, caractérisé en ce que ladite étape de regroupement (138,142) comprend les sous-étapes consistant à :
déterminer (138) un quelconque décalage entre des groupes de points de transition (xti) sur différentes lignes (R1, R2, ..., Rn) ; et
appliquer à au moins certains desdits groupes de points un décalage opposé au décalage détecté, pour réaligner (138) lesdits groupes de points.
http://www.google.co.ug/patents/EP0851375B1?cl=fr
3. A method as claimed in Claim 1, characterized in that said grouping step (138, 142) comprises the substeps of:
determining (138) any shift between groups of transition points (xti) on different lines (R1, R2, ..., Rn); and
applying to at least some of said groups of points a shift opposite to the detected shift, to realign (138) said groups of points.
http://www.google.co.ug/patents/EP0851375B1?cl=en&hl=de
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Reference comments

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compensation vs. counter-compensation

The term may only be justified if used for indemnification as in the following article, where somebody is indemnified and another party is counter-compensated:
(xii) A final argument could be that the provision of tariff compensation to low cost export or import competing industries could lead to further claims by import competing industries that their relative position was being eroded and should be restored, hence setting off successive rounds of compensation and counter-compensation.
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counter-compensation not found by
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/counter-compensation
http://www.merriam-webster.com/

Simple Definition of compensation
• : something that is done or given to make up for damage, trouble, etc.
• : something good that acts as a balance against something bad or undesirable
• : payment given for doing a job
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compensation

compensation (n.) Look up compensation at Dictionary.com
late 14c., "action of compensating," from Latin compensationem (nominative compensatio) "a weighing one thing against another, a balancing," noun of action from past participle stem of compensare (see compensate). Meaning "what is given in recompense" is from c. 1600; meaning "amends for loss or damages" is from 1804; meaning "salary, wages" is attested from 1787, American English. The psychological sense is from 1914.
counter (v.) Look up counter at Dictionary.com
"go against," late 14c., from Old French countre "facing opposite" (see counter-). Related: Countered; countering. As an adverb, from mid-15c.; as an adjective, from 1590s.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php

In engineering, compensation is planning for side effects or other unintended issues in a design. In a more simpler term, it's a "counter-procedure" plan on expected side effect performed to produce more efficient and useful results. The design of an invention can itself also be to compensate for some other existing issue or exception.

One example is in a voltage-controlled crystal oscillator (VCXO), which is normally affected not only by voltage, but to a lesser extent by temperature. A temperature-compensated version (a TCVCXO) is designed so that heat buildup within the enclosure of a transmitter or other such device will not alter the piezoelectric effect, thereby causing frequency drift.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensation_(engineering)

„counter-compensation” is very rare, it has only 1,770 Ghits, including such as
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while „compensation has 229,000,000 Ghits.
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