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Polish term
koko123 (X)
klin napowietrzający
Polish to English
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Environment & Ecology
[Narodowy Park Kampinoski] "To zielone płuca w bezpośrednim sąsiedztwie wielkiej aglomeracji, do której powietrze zasobne w tlen dostarczane jest poprzez kliny napowietrzające i grawitacyjnie doliną Wisły."
Proposed translations
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| 5 -1 | green wedge [greenway, green belt] |
adamgajlewicz
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| 4 -1 | aeration corridor |
Polangmar
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Proposed translations
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aeration corridor
...architects and medical officials sought to ventilate cities through the formation of aeration corridors and atmospheric currents...
http://tinyurl.com/36hqerz
http://tinyurl.com/36hqerz
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adamgajlewicz
: what you have provided is "korytarz napowietrzający " http://www.google.pl/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=koryt... It is not the same thing......
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Określenia te często stosowane są zamiennie (i w kontekście podanym przez Pytającego chodzi właśnie o korytarz): "Dzięki realizacji II etapu powstał “zielony klin” o pow. ok. 10 ha – korytarz napowietrzający duże osiedle... http://tinyurl.com/256eo3p
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jerzywroblewski
: wydaje mi się, że chodzi właśnie o sens a nie o słowa
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Dziękuję.:)
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Michal Berski
: fraza niewystępująca w natywnym angielskim
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Chyba nie przetłumaczymy tego terminu jako "good coffee" tylko dlatego, że taka fraza występuje w natywnym angielskim.
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adamgajlewicz
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green wedge [greenway, green belt]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_belt
This is how English environmentalists call it and ensure it is the word you are looking for. The term appears in Wikipedia's "Green belt" and elsewhere, which you can check and decide if and that it is the right term.....
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Note added at 6 hrs (2010-12-30 21:13:26 GMT)
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Should have written "what", instead of "how" they call it.... That is a patently obvious slip-up of a sleepy mind....
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:20:10 GMT)
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The county council has said the development will use up green wedge land and put pressure on county school places.... http://www.google.pl/search?q=green wedge bbc&hl=pl&prmd=ivn...
However, a developer wants to build on the “green wedge” between Seaton and Colyford and there is local resistance to this. With “flexible boundaries” is is possible that we could see development where we don’t want it and no development where it seems most suitable.
Another examaple: The Town and Country Planning Association, an organisation heavily involved in initiating the concept several decades previously, published a policy statement in 2002[4] which proposed a more flexible policy which would allow the introduction of green wedge and strategic gap policies rather than green belts, and so permit the expansion of some urban areas.
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The landscape team in the Leeds office have submitted their review of five Green Wedges to Middlesbrough Borough Council. The Green Wedges are local designations covering strategic open areas of land which bring the countryside into the urban area. They maintain a separation between distinct neighbourhoods and are a key element of the wider open space network within Middlesbrough.
The review was undertaken in three stages. Danny Smith, Senior Landscape Architect in the Leeds office said that Green Wedges was found to continue to be important in maintaining local identity and providing a visual and recreational amenity. However, some areas within the Green Wedges are more important than others in maintaining the integirty of the entire wedge.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:37:09 GMT)
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Eltham is one of the 'green wedge' areas that provide relatively undeveloped, accessible environments within the Melbourne suburban region. These green wedge areas are under constant pressure from developments such as road and freeway expansions, but Eltham has managed to retain many tree-lined streets and leafy reserves.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:39:28 GMT)
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Melbourne’s green wedge areas are an important metropolitan asset. Green wedges are predominately non-urban areas outside the UGB. These areas are set aside to help conserve rural activities, significant natural landscape features and resources between metropolitan Melbourne’s growth corridors.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:40:49 GMT)
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The Coalition said it was a “long term supporter of green wedges” and has not supported any Urban Growth Boundary expansion outside of growth areas.” However, as the new growth areas were all in the Green Wedges until last July, this gives no grounds for confidence. Further, the Coalition has said it wants to rezone even more green wedge land for urban development and would allow “ logical inclusions to be considered” should municipalities have other green wedge land they want included in the UGB.
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Note added at 18 hrs (2010-12-31 08:53:54 GMT)
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And now the name: klin napowietrzający => "klin zieleni napowietrzający miasto" as presented in the example: Wzdłuż doliny rzecznej znajduje się klin zieleni napowietrzający miasto - jest to Park Dendrologiczny nad rzeką Dzierżęcinką.
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Note added at 18 hrs (2010-12-31 08:54:31 GMT)
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More examples: Wzdłuż doliny rzecznej znajduje się klin zieleni napowietrzający miasto
This is how English environmentalists call it and ensure it is the word you are looking for. The term appears in Wikipedia's "Green belt" and elsewhere, which you can check and decide if and that it is the right term.....
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Note added at 6 hrs (2010-12-30 21:13:26 GMT)
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Should have written "what", instead of "how" they call it.... That is a patently obvious slip-up of a sleepy mind....
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:20:10 GMT)
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The county council has said the development will use up green wedge land and put pressure on county school places.... http://www.google.pl/search?q=green wedge bbc&hl=pl&prmd=ivn...
However, a developer wants to build on the “green wedge” between Seaton and Colyford and there is local resistance to this. With “flexible boundaries” is is possible that we could see development where we don’t want it and no development where it seems most suitable.
Another examaple: The Town and Country Planning Association, an organisation heavily involved in initiating the concept several decades previously, published a policy statement in 2002[4] which proposed a more flexible policy which would allow the introduction of green wedge and strategic gap policies rather than green belts, and so permit the expansion of some urban areas.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:22:06 GMT)
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The landscape team in the Leeds office have submitted their review of five Green Wedges to Middlesbrough Borough Council. The Green Wedges are local designations covering strategic open areas of land which bring the countryside into the urban area. They maintain a separation between distinct neighbourhoods and are a key element of the wider open space network within Middlesbrough.
The review was undertaken in three stages. Danny Smith, Senior Landscape Architect in the Leeds office said that Green Wedges was found to continue to be important in maintaining local identity and providing a visual and recreational amenity. However, some areas within the Green Wedges are more important than others in maintaining the integirty of the entire wedge.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:37:09 GMT)
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Eltham is one of the 'green wedge' areas that provide relatively undeveloped, accessible environments within the Melbourne suburban region. These green wedge areas are under constant pressure from developments such as road and freeway expansions, but Eltham has managed to retain many tree-lined streets and leafy reserves.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:39:28 GMT)
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Melbourne’s green wedge areas are an important metropolitan asset. Green wedges are predominately non-urban areas outside the UGB. These areas are set aside to help conserve rural activities, significant natural landscape features and resources between metropolitan Melbourne’s growth corridors.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-12-31 08:40:49 GMT)
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The Coalition said it was a “long term supporter of green wedges” and has not supported any Urban Growth Boundary expansion outside of growth areas.” However, as the new growth areas were all in the Green Wedges until last July, this gives no grounds for confidence. Further, the Coalition has said it wants to rezone even more green wedge land for urban development and would allow “ logical inclusions to be considered” should municipalities have other green wedge land they want included in the UGB.
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Note added at 18 hrs (2010-12-31 08:53:54 GMT)
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And now the name: klin napowietrzający => "klin zieleni napowietrzający miasto" as presented in the example: Wzdłuż doliny rzecznej znajduje się klin zieleni napowietrzający miasto - jest to Park Dendrologiczny nad rzeką Dzierżęcinką.
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Note added at 18 hrs (2010-12-31 08:54:31 GMT)
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More examples: Wzdłuż doliny rzecznej znajduje się klin zieleni napowietrzający miasto
Reference:
Note from asker:
| Thank you for you invaluable input, Adam. (BTW: I'm really amazed at the "debate" stirred by the question. I thought it'd be a just quick-question-and-answer thing...) |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Polangmar
: Zupełnie nie o to chodzi - "green belt" to pas zieleni (odpowiednik mniej więcej "zielonych płuc"), a nie klin napowietrzający.
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Green wedge is the answer... Green belts and alleys are alternative options.... It is nice to see you have read the discussion entry carefully...
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Discussion
Tekst ma charakter czysto urbanistyczny. "Klin napowietrzający" stylistycznie z wojną nie ma nic wspólnego wg. mnie.
Kliny napowietrzające tak naprawdę mogą mieć różne kształty, są obszarami zielonymi, np. parkami, mogą być obszarami niskiej zabudowy ustawionej wzdłuż kierunku ruchu powietrza. Klin jest tutaj tylko hasłem, skrótem myślowym, nie musi być traktowany dosłownie.
"Urbanisation impacts significantly on the microclimate of built-up spaces as impervious surfaces and the loss of greenspace and fresh-air corridors generally entail loss of shade, increased reflected sunlight and heat as well as reduced air exchange."
http://www.sedgemoor.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=7060&p=0
http://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/taunton_news/500...
These are the most common meanings...
"Park przy Lotnisku Chopina wpisuje się i wzbogaca zielony klin napowietrzający Warszawę" (this is what a green wedge stands for....
BBC article: "Taunton and Wellington's 'green lungs'" : A new green wedge could be created along the Galmington stream in Comeytrowe, where a major urban extension is planned, and a country park could be created between Priorswood and Monkton Heathfield with a path linking Halcon to the Quantock Hills. http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/somerset/hi/people_and_places/ne...
And this shows that "korytarz napowietrzający" (wildlife corridor) and "klin napowietrzający" (green wedge) are two things and not one and the same thing.
http://www.greenlivingcentre.org.uk/iwg/skim/Correspondence_...
"EN04 All development proposals must provide for the protection and, wherever possible, the retention, of existing semi-natural features on the site, including rivers, streams, ponds, marshes, woodlands,hedgerows, trees, features of geological interest, and also including wildlife corridors and green wedges"
Hope to have dispelled your doubts....
More examples have been offered in the notes....
Odnośnik podany w mojej odpowiedzi jest anglosaski: http://tinyurl.com/39gd2gk
Odnosiłem się do postu, który został usunięty przez dyskutanta (wraz z jego odpowiedzią).
Do tego to lotnisko to tzw. klin napowietrzający stolicę (zachodnie wiatry znad Puszczy Kampinoskiej).
http://lotnictwo.net.pl/5-poszczegolne_lotniska/30-lotniska_...
...likwiduje jedyny korytarz napowietrzający Warszawę od strony Puszczy Kampinoskiej (80% wiatrów).
http://eko_bg.republika.pl/protest.html
a) w kierunku z zachodu na wschód poprzez maksymalne ograniczenie wysokich przeszkód w pasie wiązki linii elektroenergetycznych wysokiego napięcia, b) w kierunku z południowo-zachodniego na północno-wschodni poprzez
kształtowanie wysokiej zabudowy równolegle do głównych osi klinów napowietrzających z poszerzonymi korytarzami komunikacyjnymi dopełnionymi zielenią niską.
5. Dla podstrefy, o której mowa w § 13 ust. 1, ustala się następujące warunki w zakresie ochrony środowiska:
1) wyznacza się klin napowietrzający na kierunku W-E wg ustaleń na rysunku Planu; w obrębie klina obowiązuje kształtowanie zabudowy równoległe do jego osi i ograniczenie wysokich przeszkód w strefie osiowej klina,
http://www.pppt.pl/pl/dla_mediow/mpzp_pppt.pdf
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