Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

dándole objetuales y conceptuales

English translation:

endowing it with physical and conceptual ideas / qualities

Added to glossary by teju
Apr 15, 2013 16:26
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term

dándole objetuales y conceptuales

Spanish to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting Photography exhibit - art
Same as previous question. Same statement. Gracias de antemano.


La acción interviene de una manera esencial porque creo que el arte debe ir más allá de una técnica, trato de experimentarlo en cada cosa que hago tenga o no una relación tan directa con un supuesto “mundo artístico” pero que causa en mí mismo las emociones y sensaciones que me gustaría fueran transmitidas en cada pieza y en este proceso van surgiendo ideas y a partir de ellas voy tomando decisiones dándole objetuales y conceptuales.

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endowing it with physical and conceptual ideas / qualities

"Objetuales" does immediately suggest "arte objetual", which takes us back to Duchamp ultimately, and "arte conceptual" is a familiar enough term in modern art. But I've come to the conclusion that this can't be what the terms are referring to here.

The main stumbling block for me here is "dándole". What is that doing there? The only way I can make this mean objective/objectual/object-based and conceptual art is by just ignoring "dándole". Also, what noun do "objetuales" and "conceptuales" refer to? "Decisiones"? How does that work? It just makes no sense to me.

But I think "dándole" has to mean "dando a la pieza". So ideas come to him while he's working on a piece and he takes decisions, giving the piece "objetuales y conceptuales". Maybe this means "ideas objetuales y conceptuales". Or maybe there is an unspoken noun there, something like atributos or cualidades.

Anyway, I conclude from these reflections that actually "objetuales" doesn't refer here to "arte objetual" but that it means "physical" or "concrete": pertaining to the artwork as object. I don't think you can express this as objective, which is not the same thing as "objetual".

This illustrates the sense in which I am interpreting the adjectives:

"El proceso se da en la medida en que la información le llega al niño de su entorno socio cultural a manera de elementos conceptuales (abstractos) y elementos objetuales (físicos)"
http://fido.palermo.edu/servicios_dyc/encuentro2007/02_auspi...
Note from asker:
Sounds to me that "dandole" here refers to the fact that she assigns or endows qualities to her work. I think your reading is spot on. By the way, I've re-posted a question from yesterday since I got no answers. Would be very grateful if you had the time to weigh in. Thanks again!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Miles de gracias Charles!"
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regarding the objective and the conceptual

The writer seems to be borrowing language from Marcel Duchamp's theories that the aesthetic can (and possibly should) be found in the purely "object" nature of the work of art. Thus, the artwork must additionally be addressed directly as pure object as well as inferentially through the concept it transmits. Please refer to the website indicated below.
Note from asker:
Thank you very much. Could you please check my other question? "elemental constructor".
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