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Sin informes de las partes

English translation: Without brief of conclusions for the parties

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Spanish term or phrase:Sin informes de las partes
English translation:Without brief of conclusions for the parties

14:22 Jun 8, 2013
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Spanish term or phrase: Sin informes de las partes
This is found in a divorce decree. It's a standalone statement, so unfortunately I do not have more context. All I can say is that it is at the beginning of the court's decision, like an introduction. In my research, I came across an unanswered ProZ question: "Visto sin informes". I presume that the word "visto" is implicit in the sentence that I am asking about. I take this to mean "whereas", basically the intro to the clauses of the decision. My instinct tells me that the informes are direct testimonies, so I initially thought this could mean that the decision was made without considering direct testimony from the parties? But in my research I've found that the word informes seems to include written testimony. This confuses me, as the rest of the document is the written testimony of the parties, which debunks my hypothesis as obviously the decision was made WITH the parties' testimony (albeit written). Is there an English equivalent to this phrase? I have only really found it in texts pertaining to Venezuelan civil procedural law. Help!
Amero Communications
Canada
Local time: 21:27
Without conclusions of the parties
Explanation:
This is a particular feature in Venezuela procedural law - and no other country as far as I can see uses this specific term. After the evidentiary stage in civil proceedings the parties can submit these 'reports'. From a brief perusal of the Venezuala civil code they are the equivalent of conclusions. They are often omitted. Most divorces have this same formula.

See
http://www.ucv.ve/fileadmin/user_upload/auditoria_interna/Ar...

in particular
sections 517 and following in particular.


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or you could say

Without brief of conclusions by the parties.

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In particular Section 512 says

La falta de presentación de los informes, no producirá la interrupción de la causa y el Tribunal dictará su fallo en el plazo indicado en el artículo 515.

So they are not really essential which is why they seem to be dispensed with in divorce cases anyway.

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For ALLEGROTRANS

Allegro, you clearly are not familiar with hispanic civil procedures. Here is an example:
A ver si te sirve:


AL JUZGADO



D., Procurador de los Tribunales, y de Dª tal y como tengo debidamente acreditado en Autos, ante este Juzgado comparezco y, como mejor proceda en Derecho, DIGO:


Que en virtud del trámite conferido en Providencia de fecha uno de los corrientes, notificada a esta parte el día siete, por medio del presente escrito y en relación con la prueba practicada en el acto de la Vista, celebrada en fecha paso a formular las siguientes



CONCLUSIONES



Esta parte pasa a realizar un relato esquematizado de lo que ha sido la prueba de cada uno de los litigantes, el resultado de la misma, y lo que de ella se puede concluir:



PRIMERA.- Prueba de la parte actora.....
http://www.porticolegal.com/foro/procesal/306529/p_legis.php...



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AT, if you really know nothing about Spanish legal procedure it would be better not to comment at all.......

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This is absolutely standard in all Hispanic civil procedure and I really could do without uninformed comments. I may be wrong but I am not totally ignorant.
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Billh
Local time: 02:27
Grading comment
Thanks, Billh. I confirmed this with a Venezuelan lawyer friend.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4Without conclusions of the parties
Billh
4 -1Order made without consideration of pleadings/written submissions by the parties
AllegroTrans


Discussion entries: 3





  

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Order made without consideration of pleadings/written submissions by the parties


Explanation:
I read this as a "fast" divorce where the petitioner simply files a standard form of petition and unless the respondent contests the divorce, the Court pronounces a Decree.

Cf. Special procedure divorce in England & Wales and similar procedure in many other countries.

Therefore apart from the petition, neither party files any pleadings or written submissions.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1656

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Billh: I really don't think the judge is going to issue a judgment without considering the pleadings. Really.....// Have you actually looked at the Venezuala Procedural Code? - If not see my link and read it. These things are really not as simple as pure guessw
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Without conclusions of the parties


Explanation:
This is a particular feature in Venezuela procedural law - and no other country as far as I can see uses this specific term. After the evidentiary stage in civil proceedings the parties can submit these 'reports'. From a brief perusal of the Venezuala civil code they are the equivalent of conclusions. They are often omitted. Most divorces have this same formula.

See
http://www.ucv.ve/fileadmin/user_upload/auditoria_interna/Ar...

in particular
sections 517 and following in particular.


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Note added at 1 hr (2013-06-08 15:40:43 GMT)
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or you could say

Without brief of conclusions by the parties.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2013-06-08 15:47:31 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

In particular Section 512 says

La falta de presentación de los informes, no producirá la interrupción de la causa y el Tribunal dictará su fallo en el plazo indicado en el artículo 515.

So they are not really essential which is why they seem to be dispensed with in divorce cases anyway.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-06-08 19:02:14 GMT)
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For ALLEGROTRANS

Allegro, you clearly are not familiar with hispanic civil procedures. Here is an example:
A ver si te sirve:


AL JUZGADO



D., Procurador de los Tribunales, y de Dª tal y como tengo debidamente acreditado en Autos, ante este Juzgado comparezco y, como mejor proceda en Derecho, DIGO:


Que en virtud del trámite conferido en Providencia de fecha uno de los corrientes, notificada a esta parte el día siete, por medio del presente escrito y en relación con la prueba practicada en el acto de la Vista, celebrada en fecha paso a formular las siguientes



CONCLUSIONES



Esta parte pasa a realizar un relato esquematizado de lo que ha sido la prueba de cada uno de los litigantes, el resultado de la misma, y lo que de ella se puede concluir:



PRIMERA.- Prueba de la parte actora.....
http://www.porticolegal.com/foro/procesal/306529/p_legis.php...



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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-06-08 19:02:57 GMT)
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AT, if you really know nothing about Spanish legal procedure it would be better not to comment at all.......

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-06-08 19:04:22 GMT)
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This is absolutely standard in all Hispanic civil procedure and I really could do without uninformed comments. I may be wrong but I am not totally ignorant.

Billh
Local time: 02:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1149
Grading comment
Thanks, Billh. I confirmed this with a Venezuelan lawyer friend.
Notes to answerer
Asker: I like the second one. It makes sense to me. Thank you!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: The parties don't make conclusions, the Judge does that// Yes I have looked at SP and I know that the word "conclusions" is used as in French. However I don't consider it to translate well into the EN "conclusions"
1 hr
  -> Please AT, briefs of conclusions are invariable in nearly all hispanic civil cases. I really can't be bothered to prove it to you. They conclude their case after the evidence. I know you are familiar with some UK courts but have you ever looked at Spanish
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