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minus 316 Passagieren weniger auf der Linie

English translation: 316 fewer passengers in scheduled service

09:17 Jul 13, 2006
German to English translations [PRO]
Transport / Transportation / Shipping / annual report
German term or phrase: minus 316 Passagieren weniger auf der Linie
Hope someone can help with this please... An airport management company is reporting on its results for the year and I cannot understand the bit in ***s.
Trotz eines leichten Rückgangs im Charteraufkommen
(-1,7%) und ***minus 316 Passagieren weniger auf der Linie***,
I presume that it does not just mean that there were 316 fewer charter passengers (the airport's scheduled passneger volume is 900,000) but am not sure about auf der Linie ....Thanks for any help
Charles Stanford
Czech Republic
Local time: 00:18
English translation:316 fewer passengers in scheduled service
Explanation:
Two different categories, charter flights and scheduled flights, with the corresponding figures for each (they probably went with the actual figure instead of percentage because it would be insigificant as a percentage of total scheduled capacity (-0.03%).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_airline
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HarryHedgehog
Germany
Local time: 00:18
Grading comment
thanks Harry and all the others (Stephen, Darin, Armorel, David, Andras, Avantix, Sladjana...). Still not entirely sure because the customer never got back to me, but I had to put something and this seemed to fit best
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1316 fewer passangers flew with the airline
Stephen Sadie
3 +1316 fewer passengers in scheduled service
HarryHedgehog
3 +1316 passengers less on scheduled services (operated by one airline)
David Moore (X)
4316 fewer passengers per airline
Andras Malatinszky


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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
316 fewer passangers flew with the airline


Explanation:
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Note added at 16 mins (2006-07-13 09:34:15 GMT)
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Basically you're right, evidently they did better that the average for charter business

Stephen Sadie
Germany
Local time: 00:18
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 48

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sladjana Spaic
26 mins
  -> thanks sladjana
neutral  Armorel Young: With what airline? This must refer to scheduled flights in general, not to one particular (unspecified) airline.
41 mins
neutral  avantix: agree with Armorel
4 hrs
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
316 fewer passengers in scheduled service


Explanation:
Two different categories, charter flights and scheduled flights, with the corresponding figures for each (they probably went with the actual figure instead of percentage because it would be insigificant as a percentage of total scheduled capacity (-0.03%).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_airline

HarryHedgehog
Germany
Local time: 00:18
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 22
Grading comment
thanks Harry and all the others (Stephen, Darin, Armorel, David, Andras, Avantix, Sladjana...). Still not entirely sure because the customer never got back to me, but I had to put something and this seemed to fit best
Notes to answerer
Asker:

Asker: I might have to check with the customer on this one becuase it is pretty ambiguous ... It is for Graz Intl. Airport (Austria's second largest] but I suppose they could just have one schedule or charter operator... They do say earlier in the text though that the scheduled passengers are down 0.6% on last year which is 5000 passengers and not 316 so unfortunately that does not fit


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Stephen Sadie: the text ist talking about total charter flights (aufkommen), comparing with the no. of passengers on this specific airline//very strange to compare % & numbers though!
17 mins
  -> That's your interpretation, which I feel is wrong or wouldn't have suggested another answer. I think you're a little overconfident on this one.
agree  Armorel Young: I think Stephen has misread it - I agree with Harry that passengers are being divided into 2 categories; chartered are down by 1.7% and scheduled by 316 passengers
22 mins
agree  Darin Fitzpatrick: This may be a case where you need to translate what the author said, even if it's not what he meant. See my note above.
4 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
316 passengers less on scheduled services (operated by one airline)


Explanation:
I am well aware that this answer seems to repeat the other two, but the explanation does not.
My reading is that this concerns a minor airport operating mainly charter flights, where the traffic was down by 1.7%, and which also has scheduled services operated by only one airline, for which the figures were down by 316 over the year.

It does seem rather odd, however, that the writer uses percentage and then absolute, where an "either/or" approach would be far more logical (and better understood...).

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Note added at 4 hrs (2006-07-13 13:46:06 GMT)
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Charles: have you a split between charter and shceduled passengers? Your "5,000" is 0.6% of the TOTAL passengers, whereas they state the 316 reduction is on "Linie" (i.e. scheduled)pax, and they give a 1.7% figure as reduction in charter pax..

By the way, the website does give a TOTAL passenger figure of 900,000, so my version may yet prove to be correct...

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Note added at 4 hrs (2006-07-13 13:49:46 GMT)
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And on perusing the website, it is quite clear there are a number of airlines operating scheduled services, so please consider my reference to "one single airline" deleted...

David Moore (X)
Local time: 00:18
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 776

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  avantix: I agree with the first part, but would leave the bracketed part out. Who says that there's only one airline operating scheduled services??
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Avantix; indeed I would leave the bracketed part out, and see my added note on "one airline only".
neutral  Darin Fitzpatrick: With avantix, in that there is no way to tell that a single airline is meant. In any case use "fewer" not "less."
2 hrs
  -> See my added note
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
316 fewer passengers per airline


Explanation:
Given that the number of passengers is down by about 5,000 and assuming there are about 15 airlines servicing the airport (not an unreasonable assumption judging from a glance at their web site), the average drop in the number of passengers is around the 316 per airline.

Still, I think asking the client is a good idea.


    Reference: http://www.flughafen-graz.at/
Andras Malatinszky
Local time: 18:18
Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian
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