Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

PC et ICPE accordés

English translation:

Permis de Construire et Installations Classées Pour la Protection de l\'Environnement granted

Added to glossary by Sasha Barral-Robinson
Apr 28, 2010 21:22
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French term

PC et ICPE accordés

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering industry
Bâtiment logistique de 67 400 m² à Troyes

Bâtiment neuf, embranché fer, de 67 400 m², situé sur le Parc Logistique de l'Aube.
(PC et ICPE accordés)
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Apr 29, 2010 09:56: David Goward changed "Field (specific)" from "Automotive / Cars & Trucks" to "Construction / Civil Engineering"

Discussion

Bourth (X) Apr 29, 2010:
Yes but I'm not sure I'd translate it "Classified Installation for the Protection of the Environment" which gives the impression - possibly intentionally? - that such facilities participate actively in environmental protection, whereas it is in fact quite the reverse: they are facilities which are potentially hazardous in environmental terms and which require special protective and monitoring measures to avoid the worst. However, concealing unpleasant realities under eulogistic environmental half-truths is par for the course ...
Sasha Barral-Robinson (asker) Apr 29, 2010:
Thank you Bourth Your helpful answer let me to this site:
http://www.eugris.info/FurtherDescription.asp?e=183&Ca=1&Cy=...

So ICPE means Classified Installation for the Protection of the Environment

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Permis de Construire et Installations Classées Pour la Protection de l'Environnement granted

OK, this is just preliminary thoughts. Do you have more context?

Don't understand why a building permit would be granted since the building already exists, and I don't see that ICPE would be "granted", but rather "imposed".

Requires more thought.

PS Had a peek at your ProZ profile and CV and was delighted to discover you are yet another NZ translator (we're the best ;-) ). There's an awful lot of us about for a small population.
Even more pleased to see you graduated Cantuariensis too!

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Note added at 37 mins (2010-04-28 21:59:46 GMT)
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Ah, no wonder it made no sense; seems PC and ICPE here are proprietary acronyms:

trois entrepôts neufs, embranchés fer, disponibles à la location (50000 m², 60000 m² et 67000 m²) - PC ET ICPE OBTENUS (IL S’AGIT DE PROGRAMMES IMMOBILIERS ENGAGÉS PAR PROLOGIS ET ARGAN)
http://lb7.reedexpo.fr/Data/kmreed_logistique/block/F_379206...

Then again:
embranchés fer : PERMIS DE CONSTRUIRE ET ICPE OBTENUS (1510, 1530, 2662, 2663, 1412, 1432. ...
www.aube-developpement.com/PageHtml/2008/logistique.php

Back to square one:
Nous avons déposé les DEMANDES ICPE. (SEVESO) ET PC DÉBUT 2007. ... Dans le Parc logistique de l'Aube, en bordure de l'A5, l'entrepôt d'une ...
www.argan.fr/fr/images_db/newsletter argan janv2009.pdf
[Seveso is the name given to certain categories of hazardous installations (chemicals, etc.), named after an installation in Italy (?) that blew up or released toxic gas or something in, when, the 1970s?]

CLASSÉES POUR LA PROTECTION DE L'ENVIRONNEMENT (ICPE). Cette rubrique 1510 vise ...... Le Conseil général de L'AUBE ET ARGAN ont signé le 15 mars ...
argan.fr/fr/images_db/Etude%20Argan.pdf


So it is indeed that the building permit has been granted. Quite what "granting" of ICPE authorization involves I don't know. Here's what Kiwipedia has noted about "installations classées" :

Installation classée Can be hazardous installations, but also any kind of building, in particular large office buildings, logistics parks, and the effects they can have on traffic, public transport, etc.. Listed facility, listed site. Gazetted (forest). Scheduled establishment??? - Scheduled ancient monument [NCEI,03/04,p.24].



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Note added at 40 mins (2010-04-28 22:02:35 GMT)
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Get the gen. on ICPE here:
http://www.vedura.fr/environnement/sol/installation-classee-...
Peer comment(s):

agree Chris Hall
1 hr
agree Jean-Louis S.
1 hr
agree GeoS
9 hrs
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