Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
direction incitative
English translation:
Active steering control
Added to glossary by
Michael GREEN
Jan 24, 2011 16:56
13 yrs ago
French term
France
direction incitative
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Automotive / Cars & Trucks
Steering systems
"....Elle offre aussi la fonction de ***direction incitative*** qui corrige la trajectoire lors d’un freinage sur adhérence asymétrique droite/gauche ou en cas de début de dérapage en virage ou en manoeuvre d’évitement. ...."
This is part of a professional magazine article about developments in power assisted steering. The target audience is English-speaking industry professionals.
It's not difficult to understand what it is, but as my Kangoo isn't fitted with such sophisticated devices, and none of my neighbours can run to hi-tech/luxury cars, I haven't the faintest idea what this might be called in UK English - or any other English, for that matter.
I've tried web searches for (eg) "incitative steering" - a forlorn hope, and trawled the Kudoz glossary, but without success. GDT has never heard of it.
Any suggestions - or better, specialist knowledge - welcome.
This is part of a professional magazine article about developments in power assisted steering. The target audience is English-speaking industry professionals.
It's not difficult to understand what it is, but as my Kangoo isn't fitted with such sophisticated devices, and none of my neighbours can run to hi-tech/luxury cars, I haven't the faintest idea what this might be called in UK English - or any other English, for that matter.
I've tried web searches for (eg) "incitative steering" - a forlorn hope, and trawled the Kudoz glossary, but without success. GDT has never heard of it.
Any suggestions - or better, specialist knowledge - welcome.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | Active steering control |
kashew
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| 3 | steering stability program |
cc in nyc
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| 1 | cued steering |
Bourth (X)
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Proposed translations
1 day 22 hrs
Selected
Active steering control
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Note from asker:
| Thanks again, John - ypu may not need the points, but I feel you deserve them! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all, and especially to Tony for sorting out the glitch.
I think the jury is still out on this one, and not having reached a bilingual expert in any of the major manufacturers, I have opted for John's suggestion, which does at least have the approval of Mercedes.
HOWEVER, I advise caution to any colleague coming across this entry when searching the glossary: the other suggestions are equally valid!"
2 hrs
steering stability program
Maybe SSP? It works with ESP.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2011-01-24 21:57:48 GMT)
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On the other hand, I may "meet the criteria" but cars are not my thing these days. :o
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Note added at 5 hrs (2011-01-24 21:57:48 GMT)
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On the other hand, I may "meet the criteria" but cars are not my thing these days. :o
Reference:
http://www.peugeot.com/en/innovation/safety/avoid/ssp--steering-stability-program--.aspx
http://www.acronymfinder.com/Steering-Stability-Program-(automotive)-(SSP).html
1 day 6 hrs
cued steering
[This not-really-an-answer originally posted under "Discussion" for "glitch" reasons, then reposted here for reasons of posteriority].
It's not active electric steering, it would appear. Direction incitative turns the steering wheel a little, cueing the driver to steer in the same direction, whereas active electric steering steers the wheels without turning the steering wheel.
Bosch lance la DIRECTION INCITATIVE et devance TRW
Il faut savoir qu’un conducteur détecte une situation de dérapage en 200 à 300 millisecondes, l’ESP en seulement 20 ms.
Avec le nouveau système Bosch, UN EFFORT MINIME EST DONNÉ À LA DIRECTION POUR QUE LE CONDUCTEUR SOIT INCITÉ À TOURNER LÉGÈREMENT LE VOLANT. Cette correction immédiate permet ainsi de mieux exploiter les capacités du châssis et de raccourcir la distance de freinage. Le système, appelé DIRECTION INCITATIVE, fonctionne dans plusieurs autres situations telles que le dérapage en virage ou le slalom d’évitement.
Il faut aussi ajouter que ce principe est déjà commercialisé sur les BMW Série 5 et Lexus GS, MAIS GRÂCE À LA DIRECTION ACTIVE (légère rotation de la direction sans que le volant ne tourne).
http://www.auto-innovations.com/actualite/507.html
Bosch Automotive showed journalists ACTIVE ELECTRIC STEERING last summer at its proving grounds in Boxberg, Germany. After driving BMW 5 Series cars equipped with the nimble new steering system, drivers who shifted back to cars with standard steering found themselves skidding and toppling traffic cones on the same course.
http://query.nytimes.com/2003/10/22/automobiles/technology-c...
Same name applied to something different, i.e. power assist varies depending on how right the electronics think the driver's steering is:
Bosch est désormais en mesure de fournir en série un système de DIRECTION INCITATIVE développé conjointement avec DaimlerChrysler. Cette nouvelle fonction permet au conducteur de manœuvrer au mieux lors d'une situation critique. ELLE RENFORCE OU RÉDUIT L'APPORT DE LA DIRECTION ASSISTÉE et permet au conducteur de trouver le meilleur angle de braquage.
http://www.bosch.fr/presse/communique.asp?id=146
Looking at the quotes again and seeing they both date from 2005, I suspect they are talking about the same thing, and that one or both of the journalists either cannnot express themselves clearly or got the wrong end of the (gear)stick. As so often happens.
It's not active electric steering, it would appear. Direction incitative turns the steering wheel a little, cueing the driver to steer in the same direction, whereas active electric steering steers the wheels without turning the steering wheel.
Bosch lance la DIRECTION INCITATIVE et devance TRW
Il faut savoir qu’un conducteur détecte une situation de dérapage en 200 à 300 millisecondes, l’ESP en seulement 20 ms.
Avec le nouveau système Bosch, UN EFFORT MINIME EST DONNÉ À LA DIRECTION POUR QUE LE CONDUCTEUR SOIT INCITÉ À TOURNER LÉGÈREMENT LE VOLANT. Cette correction immédiate permet ainsi de mieux exploiter les capacités du châssis et de raccourcir la distance de freinage. Le système, appelé DIRECTION INCITATIVE, fonctionne dans plusieurs autres situations telles que le dérapage en virage ou le slalom d’évitement.
Il faut aussi ajouter que ce principe est déjà commercialisé sur les BMW Série 5 et Lexus GS, MAIS GRÂCE À LA DIRECTION ACTIVE (légère rotation de la direction sans que le volant ne tourne).
http://www.auto-innovations.com/actualite/507.html
Bosch Automotive showed journalists ACTIVE ELECTRIC STEERING last summer at its proving grounds in Boxberg, Germany. After driving BMW 5 Series cars equipped with the nimble new steering system, drivers who shifted back to cars with standard steering found themselves skidding and toppling traffic cones on the same course.
http://query.nytimes.com/2003/10/22/automobiles/technology-c...
Same name applied to something different, i.e. power assist varies depending on how right the electronics think the driver's steering is:
Bosch est désormais en mesure de fournir en série un système de DIRECTION INCITATIVE développé conjointement avec DaimlerChrysler. Cette nouvelle fonction permet au conducteur de manœuvrer au mieux lors d'une situation critique. ELLE RENFORCE OU RÉDUIT L'APPORT DE LA DIRECTION ASSISTÉE et permet au conducteur de trouver le meilleur angle de braquage.
http://www.bosch.fr/presse/communique.asp?id=146
Looking at the quotes again and seeing they both date from 2005, I suspect they are talking about the same thing, and that one or both of the journalists either cannnot express themselves clearly or got the wrong end of the (gear)stick. As so often happens.
Discussion
Ex. - Yesterday a contractor was laying fibre-optic cable along the road, in the field opposite, using a mole-plough. I went outside and gawked, then introduced myself, said it was interesting to see in more detail how the work is done, that as a translator I have had to work on such matters. The bloke was very happy to then give me a running commentary on the work he was doing setting the machine up, comparing his vibrating-blade machine to the much larger static-blade unit I had seen laying cable in the same place 15 years ago (larger because agricultural drains have to be placed without vibration - which would cause fine particles to move and clog the drain - , which means they need greater power and more traction to pull through the earth).
If I post a dummy answer, you can accept that and use it to create a glossary entry, with minimum points of course, and all credit to Bourth.
The only problem is, How to post the answer to the glossary?
"Direction incitative" does suggest "encouraging" the driver to take action, whereas "active electric steering" implies that the car's electronics are (heaven help us) taking control out of the driver's hands, at least to some extent.
Kashew's link to a report on the Mercedes equivalent which calls it "active steering correction" suggests that the system starts with a "hint", then becomes more actively involved. The article heading ("Mercedes.... tries to overcome inattentive drivers") tells us what it's all about.
"Active steering control" might be a more appropriate term, but failing any industry consensus on the matter, I will nevertheless retain "Active steering correction", since no other term appears to be generally used.
These developments have all been made by non English-speaking manufacturers, and apparently the translating community has not reached a consensus about an English term.
On en apprend toujours!
http://query.nytimes.com/2003/10/22/automobiles/technology-c...
Same name applied to something different, i.e. power assist varies depending on how right the electronics think the driver's steering is:
Bosch est désormais en mesure de fournir en série un système de DIRECTION INCITATIVE développé conjointement avec DaimlerChrysler. Cette nouvelle fonction permet au conducteur de manœuvrer au mieux lors d'une situation critique. ELLE RENFORCE OU RÉDUIT L'APPORT DE LA DIRECTION ASSISTÉE et permet au conducteur de trouver le meilleur angle de braquage.
http://www.bosch.fr/presse/communique.asp?id=146
Can't Answer, can't Reference, despite Tony's "fix".
Bosch lance la DIRECTION INCITATIVE et devance TRW
Il faut savoir qu’un conducteur détecte une situation de dérapage en 200 à 300 millisecondes, l’ESP en seulement 20 ms.
Avec le nouveau système Bosch, UN EFFORT MINIME EST DONNÉ À LA DIRECTION POUR QUE LE CONDUCTEUR SOIT INCITÉ À TOURNER LÉGÈREMENT LE VOLANT. Cette correction immédiate permet ainsi de mieux exploiter les capacités du châssis et de raccourcir la distance de freinage. Le système, appelé DIRECTION INCITATIVE, fonctionne dans plusieurs autres situations telles que le dérapage en virage ou le slalom d’évitement.
Il faut aussi ajouter que ce principe est déjà commercialisé sur les BMW Série 5 et Lexus GS, MAIS GRÂCE À LA DIRECTION ACTIVE (légère rotation de la direction sans que le volant ne tourne).
http://www.auto-innovations.com/actualite/507.html
MORE COMING
Meanwhile, thanks for your input. "Intelligent steering" (which is what we all think we do when at the wheel) had crossed my mind, but kashew's suggestion is clearly spot on.
Confusing, innit... ?!
Kashew - might you post that suggestion? It seems the correct term to this non-mechanical (and semi-retired) translator.
Have corrected the error for you, Michael.
Can I go now please?
I ticked the "members only" box in error - didn't think it would matter.
Sorry about that...
Would you care to post it as an answer?
direction incentive = directional control