Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
clavar (in this context)
English translation:
shaft, leave (someone) in the lurch, let (someone) down, fleece, swindle, rip off
Added to glossary by
Mónica Algazi
Jan 17, 2013 11:54
11 yrs ago
Spanish term
clavar (in this context)
Spanish to English
Other
Journalism
Newspaper article
El semanario sensacionalista "..." (página 13) informa que el actual senador por el Partido XXX, Fulano de Tal, era empleado del Banco YYY “cuando lo fundieron, * clavando* a miles de ahorristas de ese país”.
I'd like to find an expression with the same linguistic register. TIA!
I'd like to find an expression with the same linguistic register. TIA!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | leaving (them) in the lurch |
neilmac
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| 4 +1 | rip off |
Lisa McCarthy
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| 3 | to fleece |
Taña Dalglish
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| 3 | short-changing |
Richard Hill
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Proposed translations
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leaving (them) in the lurch
Etc. There are lots of ways to express it:
"...letting down thousands of savers in the country down";
"...sinking thousands of savers in its wake...";
Or more directly tabloid: "shafting thousands of the country's savers in the process..."
The notion is that the entity went bell up and left the savers
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I'd agree with Taña and Lisa if the financial mismanagement in question was DELIBERATE rather than merely the result of ineptitude.
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(which is the connotation in my third example)
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Bankrupt: financially ruined; "a bankrupt company"; "the company went belly-up".
"...letting down thousands of savers in the country down";
"...sinking thousands of savers in its wake...";
Or more directly tabloid: "shafting thousands of the country's savers in the process..."
The notion is that the entity went bell up and left the savers
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I'd agree with Taña and Lisa if the financial mismanagement in question was DELIBERATE rather than merely the result of ineptitude.
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(which is the connotation in my third example)
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Bankrupt: financially ruined; "a bankrupt company"; "the company went belly-up".
Note from asker:
| I like it. Thank you, Neil! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
jacana54 (X)
: Esto funcionaría muy bien si Mónica resuelve usar "rip off" para "curro".
10 mins
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| agree |
Marcela Dutra
: También me gusta "shafting" y "letting...down" como opción más suave
2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you all!"
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Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
Native in English
Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
4
to fleece
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/clavar
claves - Diccionario Inglés-Español WordReference.com
www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=claves clavar. I verbo transitivo 1 (con un martillo) to hammer in (sujetar con clavos) to nail 2 (una estaca) to drive in 3 familiar (cobrar demasiado) to sting o fleece: nos ...
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Airtel - non-receiving of full balance
www.consumercomplaints.in/.../airtel-madhya-pradesh-c666217... Oct 2011 – They recover their advertisement costs by fleecing million of customers by simply deducting charges for some stupid offers which you have not ...
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Taña. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
neilmac
: Perhap a bit too direct/harsh, as it suggests they did it intentionally rather than by bungling
3 mins
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Thanks.
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5 mins
Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Spain
Especialista de marketing
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
Related KudoZ points
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32
rip off
Clavar is slang for 'rip off'
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Or 'swindle'
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Pension industry denies Labour claims of **ripping off savers** | Politics ...
www.guardian.co.uk › Politics › Labour
16 Jul 2012 – Association of British Insurers accuse ministers of using outdated information and focusing on specialist schemes.
Banks using Funding for Lending Scheme to 'rip off' savers - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk › Finance › Personal Finance › Savings
1 day ago – What a surprise **banks ripping off savers** and borrowers at the same time,. It's just that it's especially galling this time as they are using our ...
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RIGHTS-ARGENTINA: The 'Madres' of Civil Resistance - Inter Press ...
ipsnews2.wpengine.com/.../rights-argentina-the-madres-of-civil-resist...
... in January in downtown Buenos Aires, banging pots and pans and gluing posters or painting graffiti on the banks, which they accuse of **swindling savers.**
Company collapse 'caused by greed'.(News) - HighBeam Research
www.highbeam.com › ... › Jan - Mar 2000 › February 17, 2000
17 Feb 2000 – FINAL submissions are to be made today in the trial of a former Irish financier accused of **swindling savers** who invested in his off-shore deposit ...
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Or 'swindle'
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Pension industry denies Labour claims of **ripping off savers** | Politics ...
www.guardian.co.uk › Politics › Labour
16 Jul 2012 – Association of British Insurers accuse ministers of using outdated information and focusing on specialist schemes.
Banks using Funding for Lending Scheme to 'rip off' savers - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk › Finance › Personal Finance › Savings
1 day ago – What a surprise **banks ripping off savers** and borrowers at the same time,. It's just that it's especially galling this time as they are using our ...
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RIGHTS-ARGENTINA: The 'Madres' of Civil Resistance - Inter Press ...
ipsnews2.wpengine.com/.../rights-argentina-the-madres-of-civil-resist...
... in January in downtown Buenos Aires, banging pots and pans and gluing posters or painting graffiti on the banks, which they accuse of **swindling savers.**
Company collapse 'caused by greed'.(News) - HighBeam Research
www.highbeam.com › ... › Jan - Mar 2000 › February 17, 2000
17 Feb 2000 – FINAL submissions are to be made today in the trial of a former Irish financier accused of **swindling savers** who invested in his off-shore deposit ...
Note from asker:
| In fact, it was deliberate. Thank you, Lisa. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
neilmac
: Although slang, I'd say "ripping off" is Ok in most contexts nowadays, although it suggests deliberate intent.
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Cheers, Neil :)
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2 hrs
short-changing
Another option. Perhaps it's not strong enough?
short-change
vb (tr)
1. to give less than correct change to
2. Slang to treat unfairly or dishonestly, esp by giving less than is deserved or expected
short-changer n
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/short-change
Banks pocketing £80m a year by short-changing savers out of Isa tax-free interest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/saving/article-2100574/Bank...
Banks pocketing £80m a year by short-changing savers out of tax-free interest on Isas
http://journalisted.com/article/366yw
But these aren't the only institutions short-changing savers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/savings/9...
Banks have also been caught short-changing savers on interest rates after a probe by regulators.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/thousands-to-get-ref...
short-change
vb (tr)
1. to give less than correct change to
2. Slang to treat unfairly or dishonestly, esp by giving less than is deserved or expected
short-changer n
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/short-change
Banks pocketing £80m a year by short-changing savers out of Isa tax-free interest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/saving/article-2100574/Bank...
Banks pocketing £80m a year by short-changing savers out of tax-free interest on Isas
http://journalisted.com/article/366yw
But these aren't the only institutions short-changing savers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/savings/9...
Banks have also been caught short-changing savers on interest rates after a probe by regulators.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/thousands-to-get-ref...
Note from asker:
| I'm afraid it is not strong enough, as they were left without a cent! Thanks anyway, Rich! |
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