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Nov 20, 2007 08:44
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correlatos sonoros diferentes

Portuguese to English Science Linguistics loanword adaptation
Na fonologia dos empréstimos de Dâw, há sons consonantais e vocálicos que, embora sejam partilhados pelos inventários do PB e de Dâw, possuem correlatos sonoros diferentes entre língua doadora e receptora. Com referência às consoantes existentes nos dois inventários, ocorrem as seguintes reparações fonológicas:

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In Dâw loanword phonology, there are consonantal and vocalic sounds which, despite being shared by the inventories of both BP and Dâw, have different sonorant correlations between the donor and receiver languages. With reference to the existent consonants in the two inventories, the following phonological repairs may occur:
Proposed translations (English)
4 different voice correlates
4 different sonorous/sound correlates/interrelations
4 different sonorant correlates

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zabrowa (asker) Nov 25, 2007:
FOLLOWING TEXT Com referência às consoantes existentes nos dois inventários, ocorrem as seguintes reparações fonológicas: [[TABLE 1]]

Conforme mostra a tabela 11, os sons  e das palavras do PB que ocorrem no início de palavra são assim adaptados em Dâw: > ;  > ou . Na fonologia de Dâw, o fonema /k/ está em variação alofônica com a ejetiva /sendo que no início de palavra, só ocorre a ejetiva.
zabrowa (asker) Nov 20, 2007:
I will give some examples when I get home and see the original manuscript. Thanks for taking the time to really think about this with me. I appreciate it so much.
Peter Shortall Nov 20, 2007:
Yes, "or" makes more sense. All the same, it's not completely clear to me from that example whether "sonoros" refers to sonority, sound as a whole or voicing...
zabrowa (asker) Nov 20, 2007:
yikes! in english: there is a ban in the receiver language barring all word-initial [k]. Thus, when the input is k-initial, Daw repairs this to [x].
zabrowa (asker) Nov 20, 2007:
Right, but surely not the NEGATION symbol of logic (in linguistics they'd use a * in their true anti-standardization practice).

The reason */k/ > /k/ is because there is a ban: *w[k; accordingly BP w[k > w[x.
Peter Shortall Nov 20, 2007:
Ah, I see, thanks. Maybe it is about voicing, then, but I think a vowel-based example would be helpful.
Peter Shortall Nov 20, 2007:
In logic it can mean "not", but I'm not sure if it means that here. Also, are there any examples featuring vowels, as opposed to consonants? It does mention "vocálicos" at the top.
zabrowa (asker) Nov 20, 2007:
The tilda between the two phonemes signifies that there is free variation between them.
Peter Shortall Nov 20, 2007:
If BP /k/ becomes /x/ in Dâw, there's no change in voicing in that particular example because they're both voiceless. Any idea what the ~ symbol means?
zabrowa (asker) Nov 20, 2007:
Table 11 Consonantal sounds shared by BP and Dâw inventories

As evident in Table 11, word-initial BP /k/ and /g/ are adapted into Dâw like so: /k/ > /x/; /g/ > /g/ ~ /k/ /
Peter Shortall Nov 20, 2007:
Could you give us any of what follows? I have an idea as to what "sonoros" could be; we've seen it as "voiced" before, but I doubt it's that here. Unlikely to be "sonorant" ("sonorantes"?), which refers to a lack of turbulent airflow in the vocal tract.

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different voice correlates

JSTOR: Structural Sketch of Rumanian
/d/ subsumes voiced correlates of /t/, with range [d]-[d], here transcribed merely ... /g/ subsumes voiced correlates of /k/, with principal range [g]-[g], ...
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0097-8507(195807%2F09)34%3A3%3C7%3ASSOR%3E2.0.CO%3B2-F - Similar pages - Note this
JSTOR: Uvular-Pharyngeal Resonants in Interior Salish
It is therefore tempting to interpret R and rw as the voiced correlates to x and xr."10 But both stops and resonants have plain and glottalized series; ...
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0020-7071(196707)33%3A3%3C228%3AURIIS%3E2.0.CO%3B2-2 - Similar pages - Note this
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Readings in Linguistics I & II - Google Books Result
by Eric P. Hamp - 1995 - Language Arts & Disciplines - 302 pages
... intuitive pattern relation to their voiced correlates v,, z which is specifically different from the theoretically analogous relation p, t, k: b, d, g; ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0226410277...

Mike :)
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different sonorous/sound correlates/interrelations

Parece-me certo, dado o contexto.
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different sonorant correlates

The word "sonorant" is valid terminology used in lingusitics.

so·no·rant /səˈnɔrənt, -ˈnoʊr-, soʊ-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[suh-nawr-uhnt, -nohr-, soh-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation Phonetics
–noun
1. a voiced sound that is less sonorous than a vowel but more sonorous than a stop or fricative and that may occur as either a sonant or a consonant, as (l, r, m, n, y, w).
2. a speech sound characterized by relatively free air passage through some channel, as a vowel, semivowel, liquid, or nasal. Compare obstruent.
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