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Nicole Schnell
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In general: We are overly conditioned just as Pavlovian dogs Dec 11, 2011

Apparently red flags rise up as soon as terms such as "down payment" are mentioned. Down payments are considered Best Practice for any large project. I offer them and I ask for them.

There is nothing wrong with Western Union. Not everybody on this planet has his / her accounts set up for regular international business.

Pre-Paid cashier's checks apparently are a taboo. Which is completely stupid because they are insured and indeed prepaid, carry signatures by the payer
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Apparently red flags rise up as soon as terms such as "down payment" are mentioned. Down payments are considered Best Practice for any large project. I offer them and I ask for them.

There is nothing wrong with Western Union. Not everybody on this planet has his / her accounts set up for regular international business.

Pre-Paid cashier's checks apparently are a taboo. Which is completely stupid because they are insured and indeed prepaid, carry signatures by the payer plus an authorized bank teller, and are plastered with check security features such as watermarks, color-shifting ink and such. Easily forged??!? That's because bank tellers are trained insufficiently. What a beautiful way to ease the path for scammers.

I recently contacted a colleague via the person's ProZ.com profile for editing services in regard to a largish scientific book for a university professor at one of the most prestigious universities in the Western EU, I attached a text sample (marketing/social sciences) already translated by a brilliant GER-ENG translator. This person went into my face in terms of "fraudulence", "Russian habits", "I don't do pornography", "low rates". Have people lost touch with the real world and have turned to cultivating paranoid pathological disorders? This person considered my job offer a fraud!!
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Javier Moreno Pollarolo
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Pavlov Dec 11, 2011

Nicole, you are right but the flags I'm trying to raise here are not regarding check forging or Western Union mistrust but flags of desperation and incongruence. Desperation since translators are desperate to get work and they fall for these scams. Incongruence because the scam letter makes a little bit of sense at the beginning, but then you start realizing something's not right.

Read the scammy email I got. West Africa? If so, what country? If you are a teacher in a famous univers
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Nicole, you are right but the flags I'm trying to raise here are not regarding check forging or Western Union mistrust but flags of desperation and incongruence. Desperation since translators are desperate to get work and they fall for these scams. Incongruence because the scam letter makes a little bit of sense at the beginning, but then you start realizing something's not right.

Read the scammy email I got. West Africa? If so, what country? If you are a teacher in a famous university, why not mention its name? This is weird! But hey, at the very beginning I fell for it since the first email was just a simple question, and I answered it, only to receive later the scam text I am sharing with you.

You are also right about the Pavlov experiment. But in my case I have to be conditioned as protection for my business.
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Nicole Schnell
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You are right to do so. Dec 11, 2011

Javier Moreno-Pollarolo wrote:

Nicole, you are right but the flags I'm trying to raise here are not regarding check forging or Western Union mistrust but flags of desperation and incongruence. Desperation since translators are desperate to get work and they fall for these scams. Incongruence because the scam letter makes a little bit of sense at the beginning, but then you start realizing something's not right.

Read the scammy email I got. West Africa? If so, what country? If you are a teacher in a famous university, why not mention its name? This is weird! But hey, at the very beginning I fell for it since the first email was just a simple question, and I answered it, only to receive later the scam text I am sharing with you.

You are also right about the Pavlov experiment. But in my case I have to be conditioned as protection for my business.



I wouldn't have replied to the email in the first place. Why? Because of the lower case "I" which is very common among youngsters despite the trigger-happiness in terms of shift-key usage otherwise. We all have to protect our businesses. That is by requesting all necessary information in the first place, such as: Which university? Address? Funding secured by whom? Instead of: "What is the deadline?"




Edited for typo.

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Thayenga
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Indeed Dec 12, 2011

neilmac wrote:

Thayenga wrote:

An American using Pigeon English is always suspicious.


But you can always give them "the bird"!

No seriously, I don't usually call attention to howlers but this one conjured up a nice mental image. I assume you meant "Pidgin English".... (for some of us, US English sometimes falls into this category).


Thank you... I think I had that bird in mind. Needless to say anymore.


 
Liviu-Lee Roth
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Here is the ppt. - "How to dodge translation scams" Dec 14, 2011

With the precious help from our colleague Diana Coadă (UK), I was able to upload the Power Point presentation.
Here it is : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53344051/How_to_Dodge_Translation_Scams.ppt

Keep safe,
Lee


 
Javier Moreno Pollarolo
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Thank you very much! Dec 15, 2011

lee roth wrote:

With the precious help from our colleague Diana Coadă (UK), I was able to upload the Power Point presentation.
Here it is : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53344051/How_to_Dodge_Translation_Scams.ppt

Keep safe,
Lee


I'll share with my colleagues!

Javier.


 
B D Finch
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Cockney! Dec 15, 2011

Nicole Schnell wrote:

neilmac wrote:
I assume you meant "Pidgin English".... (for some of us, US English sometimes falls into this category).


For some of us, this kind of English falls into the category Cockney speech.


Perhaps you don't realise that Cockneys are working-class people born in the East-End of London and Cockney is a particular East-End London dialect and not just uneducated, ungrammatical pidgin. It includes Cockney rhyming slang, which can be quite complex.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney


 
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