ingénierie sociale

02:16 Feb 11, 2007
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French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Human Resources / Description of a Human Resource consulting company
French term or phrase: ingénierie sociale
Not a great deal of context. It is in a list of services offered by an HR services firm: conseil en ressources humaines, ingénierie sociale, développement des ressources humaines, juridique social...
Mary Holihan
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Local time: 11:14


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4 +2social engineering
David Hollywood
4see comment
cmwilliams (X)
4business engineering
Claire Chapman
3team building
Marianna Staroselsky


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social engineering


Explanation:
For social engineering in terms of influencing popular behavior, see Social ... Social engineering is a collection of techniques used to manipulate people ...
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Social engineering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaSocial engineering (political science), efforts to influence popular societies on a large scale; Social engineering (security), the practice of obtaining ...
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L'ingénierie sociale (social engineering en anglais) est la discipline consistant à obtenir quelque chose (un bien ou une information) en exploitant la ...
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingénierie_sociale - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

David Hollywood
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agree  TrueBaller: it is social engineering. Please check out this link: http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index102...
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agree  Diane de Cicco
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team building


Explanation:
This is what I answered to another kudoz question which is currently open http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1765116?login=y I believe the same answer works.

Marianna Staroselsky
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see comment


Explanation:
The problem with "ingenierie sociale" is that it can have so many different meanings. I've found the following definition which seems to fit with your context - the real problem is finding the right English translation. I don't think Social Engineering will work here though.

Le terme est utilisé au sein des entreprises, pour la conception et le développement opérationnel de politiques de ressources humaines en matière d'organisation, de gestion par les compétences, de rémunération et de dialogue social. De nombreux cabinets-conseils proposent ainsi leurs services, au titre d’une expérience acquise. Dans le prolongement, le terme désigne une science de la conduite de projets ou du changement au sein d’une entreprise, appliquée parfois à la pratique des restructurations, le tout plus ou moins lié à une approche idéologico-scientiste (cadre conceptuel pour des stratégies rationnelles postulant la maîtrise de l’irrationnel d’autrui : le salarié, le client).

http://danielgacoin.blogs.com/blog/actualit_du_social/index....
(scroll down to entry for 10 December)

As you can see from this site, it could also mean advising on restructuring.

http://www.lhh.fr/solutions/ingenierie.html






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or it could just mean advising on statutory employee benefits as someone suggested in the previous question. There's also this past question

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/851417

Are you able to check with your client as to the exact way it's being used here?



cmwilliams (X)
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business engineering


Explanation:
See my answer at http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1765116 as well :-)

BUSINESS ENGINEERING is a management consulting organization that can help your company become more productive and profitable. We do not push fads or ideologies, but focus on the specific results sought by you, our client, at an affordable price. Through the use of our senior consultants and their operating/engineering experiences, BUSINESS ENGINEERING provides professional consulting services for manufacturing and distribution companies in a broad spectrum of industries.
http://www.busnengg.com/

Business Engineering With Object Technology (Paperback)
by David A. Taylor (Author) "In order to survive in an increasingly competitive business environment, companies must be willing to reinvent themselves on a continuous basis..." (more)
http://www.amazon.com/Business-Engineering-Object-Technology...

Promendo has developed a unique Business Engineering methodology that applies key architecture, engineering and object-oriented software design concepts to the transformation of organisations, enabling them to deliver improvement, embrace challenge and encourage growth while synchronising information systems with the business model they should be supporting.
Business Engineering provides the mechanism to intergrate process improvement into your business and achieve a closer alignment with your information systems. The methodology is flexible and able to assist in strategic or tactical requirements.
We call it OOBE® - Object Oriented Business Engineering®. OOBE provides the framework that businesses use to articulate and communicate business process improvements, business definitions and rules. It provides the crucial link missing from traditional approaches to systems development and business process engineering: a clear path from business concepts to reusable information systems components.
Its flexibility and strength enable it to add value to more specific approaches to process issues such as Continuous Improvement, Six Sigma, Business Process Management and Business Process Re-engineering. The methodology has been successfully used by major enterprises including ANZ Bank, General Motors and Translink (Queensland Transport).
Download our Business Engineering Practice PDF.
Promendo has developed a unique Business Engineering methodology that applies key architecture, engineering and object-oriented software design concepts to the transformation of organisations, enabling them to deliver improvement, embrace challenge and encourage growth while synchronising information systems with the business model they should be supporting.
Business Engineering provides the mechanism to intergrate process improvement into your business and achieve a closer alignment with your information systems. The methodology is flexible and able to assist in strategic or tactical requirements.
We call it OOBE® - Object Oriented Business Engineering®. OOBE provides the framework that businesses use to articulate and communicate business process improvements, business definitions and rules. It provides the crucial link missing from traditional approaches to systems development and business process engineering: a clear path from business concepts to reusable information systems components.
Its flexibility and strength enable it to add value to more specific approaches to process issues such as Continuous Improvement, Six Sigma, Business Process Management and Business Process Re-engineering. The methodology has been successfully used by major enterprises including ANZ Bank, General Motors and Translink (Queensland Transport).
Download our Business Engineering Practice PDF.
Promendo has developed a unique Business Engineering methodology that applies key architecture, engineering and object-oriented software design concepts to the transformation of organisations, enabling them to deliver improvement, embrace challenge and encourage growth while synchronising information systems with the business model they should be supporting.
Business Engineering provides the mechanism to intergrate process improvement into your business and achieve a closer alignment with your information systems. The methodology is flexible and able to assist in strategic or tactical requirements.
We call it OOBE® - Object Oriented Business Engineering®. OOBE provides the framework that businesses use to articulate and communicate business process improvements, business definitions and rules. It provides the crucial link missing from traditional approaches to systems development and business process engineering: a clear path from business concepts to reusable information systems components.
Its flexibility and strength enable it to add value to more specific approaches to process issues such as Continuous Improvement, Six Sigma, Business Process Management and Business Process Re-engineering. The methodology has been successfully used by major enterprises including ANZ Bank, General Motors and Translink (Queensland Transport).
Download our Business Engineering Practice PDF.
Promendo has developed a unique Business Engineering methodology that applies key architecture, engineering and object-oriented software design concepts to the transformation of organisations, enabling them to deliver improvement, embrace challenge and encourage growth while synchronising information systems with the business model they should be supporting.
Business Engineering provides the mechanism to intergrate process improvement into your business and achieve a closer alignment with your information systems. The methodology is flexible and able to assist in strategic or tactical requirements.
We call it OOBE® - Object Oriented Business Engineering®. OOBE provides the framework that businesses use to articulate and communicate business process improvements, business definitions and rules. It provides the crucial link missing from traditional approaches to systems development and business process engineering: a clear path from business concepts to reusable information systems components.
Its flexibility and strength enable it to add value to more specific approaches to process issues such as Continuous Improvement, Six Sigma, Business Process Management and Business Process Re-engineering. The methodology has been successfully used by major enterprises including ANZ Bank, General Motors and Translink (Queensland Transport).
Download our Business Engineering Practice PDF.
http://www.promendo.com/index.php?id=5

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I just got the idea to check Amazon.fr for books with "ingéniérie sociale" in the title to see if that will help. There are two books there.

Ingénierie sociale : les multiples facettes de l'épargne salariale (Broché) de G. Fraselle
Quatrième de couverture
Les premières bases de l'épargne salariale ont été jetées dès 1959. 40 ans après, les montages réalisés en Ingénierie sociale sont plus que jamais adaptés à la situation économique et sociale. [See website for the rest of the book’s description]
http://www.amazon.fr/Ingénierie-sociale-multiples-facettes-s...

L'ingénierie sociale (Broché) de Gaulejac, Bonett
Table des matières
Avant-propos
Introduction
Première partie - De la gestion institutionnelle à la gestion du développement social
• 1) Changement social et gestion des institutions [see website for the rest of the Table of Contents]
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/toc/284146265X/ref=dp_toc/40...


Claire Chapman
Local time: 11:14
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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neutral  Marc Glinert: Claire would you be kind enough to state a) your answer b) a brief supporting argument c) the extract supporting this from an external ref. (preferably in 1 or 2 lines d) the supporting url for those that have the time and inclination to take it further.
1 day 8 hrs
  -> If you had gone to the first URL that I gave, you would have seen my explanation and http://www.proz.com/kudoz/611932. “Une société” is a business in French so quite simply, "sociale" is the adjectival form.
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