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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

kasteelhoeve

English translation:

manor farm

Added to glossary by AllisonK (X)
Jan 27, 2003 20:18
22 yrs ago
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Dutch term

kasteelhoeve

Dutch to English Other woningtypes (?)
Hi,

I'm translating a guide with locations for business conventions, seminars,... and I'm struggling with the term 'kasteelhoeve'. I know it's a kind of "monumental farm" but I don't know if there is a specific word for this kind of farm?
Thanks in advance for your help!

Gert
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 manor farm
4 +4 castle farm
4 +4 country house
5 +1 manor / manor house
4 Farm of the Castle
4 adaptation of Chris' answer
3 farm(house) with four wings

Proposed translations

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26 mins
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manor farm

found several hits for this as well on Google - I may be wrong, but it's worth a try!
Landgraaf, Netherlands. Classification, 4 star(s). Number of rooms, 49. More info
about Hotel Winselerhof. Hotel Winselerhof is located in a historic manor farm ...
www.tobook.com/hotel.winselerhof
Peer comment(s):
agree alz : http://www.laurelmf.co.uk/
12 mins
agree writeaway : saw the hits too-there must be an architectural difference somewhere
1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you all for your help! As I also came across 'landhuis', 'herenhuis', etc... I thought that manor farm was maybe the best solution to keep the diversity of the source document. Again... Many thanks to all of you!"
10 mins

farm(house) with four wings

I think it's traditional for the Netherlands and Brabant, basically a farmhouse with four wings...we call it "Vierkanthof" in Germany

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Note added at 2003-01-27 20:32:53 (GMT)
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castle farm - but Elisabeth had it before me!

The oldest farm building, that you see on the picture above, was built as a \'castle farm\', around the year 1672. Recently a modern shed was built for storing potatoes and for machinery.

http://home.planet.nl/~nhuijts/Integrated.html
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+4
11 mins

castle farm

exists in original English and also was used before to descibe Belgian or Dutch Kasteelhoeves.

Greetings,

Nikolaus

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Note added at 2003-01-27 20:31:56 (GMT)
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http://www.ruraldorset.co.uk/bed/maidencastlefarm.shtml

http://www.phancocks.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/localhistory/hcast...

http://www.s-h-systems.co.uk/hotels/castlefarm.html

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Note added at 2003-01-27 20:32:50 (GMT)
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http://www.2hwy.com/be/c/castmori.htm
Reference:

http://www.waterfordfarms.com/castlefarm/

http://www.dourbes.com/belgium.htm

Peer comment(s):
agree Klaus Dorn (X) : yes, found that too!
2 mins
Tesekür ederim, Dank schee
agree writeaway : from what I've seen in Belgium (restaurants etc.) this would be it
1 hr
agree Saskia Steur (X)
16 hrs
agree Peter Leistra
3 days 14 hrs
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18 mins

Farm of the Castle

Farm belonging to a castle, Kasteelhoeve is mainly used in Belgium
Reference:

http://www.incitecoaching.com/mytraveljournal.htm

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+1
29 mins

manor / manor house

manor

man·or

The main house on an estate; a mansion.

manor n 1: the mansion of the lord of the manor [syn: {manor house}] 2: the landed estate of a lord (including the house on it)
Reference:

any dictionary

Peer comment(s):
agree AllisonK (X) : I was close! This sounds better though......
8 mins
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+4
2 hrs

country house

Because you're translating a brochure - which is ultimately trying to sell something - you need to use language that *sells* rather than getting the culture-specific details of Bourgondian kasteelhoeves 100% accurate.

For me, something along the lines of "exclusive country house location"is much more meaningful in a brochure than the rather wishy-washy "Brabant-style manor farmhouse" (or whatever). It might not convey every aspect of a kasteelhoeve, but I'm sure that's dealt with in more than enough detail in the rest of the text.
Reference:

http://www.rufflets.co.uk/

http://www.dunbrodyhouse.com/

Peer comment(s):
agree writeaway : Ok with the point you make, but country house sounds too much like a weekend getaway place-doesn't convey any luxury in itself
20 mins
To a UK reader, country house definitely conveys a generous degree of luxury. If your loved one offers to take you to a country house for the weekend, then he/she is really pushing the boat out. Don't expect Centerparcs or a semi-detached in Rhyl!!
agree AllisonK (X) : what's wrong with semi-detached in Rhyl? :)
7 hrs
Nothing! I've spent many a happy holiday in Rhyl :-)
agree Satie
8 hrs
agree Jason Roberts : Agree with translation, disagree that it doesn't convey 'luxury', even to an American English speaker such as myself
2 days 14 hrs
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10 hrs

adaptation of Chris' answer

I was thinking "country estate" might work for other speakers of English as well - I'm thinking now that the farm idea might not really be great for a brochure......
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