Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

desmesne

Spanish translation:

dominios

Jul 30, 2002 11:07
22 yrs ago
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English term

desmesne

Non-PRO English to Spanish Art/Literary
A caption reads: "The Lincoln Palace and Desmesne". In the illustration we see an Irish castle and the surrounding area.

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Dominios

El castillo de Lincoln y sus dominios.

Good luck ! :o)

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Note added at 2002-07-30 11:22:18 (GMT)
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\"Desmesne\" comes from the french word \"domaine\", which meant, in the Middle Ages, the land owned by the Lord.
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agree Carolina Lopez Garcia
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agree Luz Dumanowsky
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agree Veronica Durbaca
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agree Alma Flores Fernandez : Sí, aunque se escribe DEMESNE, y Webster's lo define como "Land belonging to and djoining a manor house; estate"
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Creo que las dos opciones, "demesne", y "desmene" son aceptadas. Gracias Flore :o)
agree Sandra Bonilla : Sí, en este caso, dominio es suficiente. Territorio es otra opción, pero quizá resulte algo ambiguo... ¡suerte!
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Gracias trebolillo :o)
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plena propiedad

land retained by the Lord
luck

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Note added at 2002-07-30 11:15:20 (GMT)
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sorry, what i found was \"DEMESNE\" not \"deSmesne\"

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Note added at 2002-07-30 11:17:43 (GMT)
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Apparantly its a variant spelling. Read this:

A History of Cranham Essex. Chapter 9: Looking after people
... During feudal times, the rich needed the lower classes as labour either directly
on the desmesne (the land of the Lord of the Manor) or indirectly for their ...
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~kelsey/cranch9.htm

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Note added at 2002-07-30 11:21:47 (GMT)
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also \"PATRIMONIO REAL\"



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Note added at 2002-07-30 11:25:06 (GMT)
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\"Demesne\" aparece utilizado en una versión española de la carta magna
http://www.angelfire.com/on3/medieval/Cartamagna.html
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propiedad de la corona

He encontrado una reforma sobre esta clase de tierra o propiedad. Se ve que es patrimonio de al corona:

Select Committee on Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform First Report



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ANNEX 1


PART 7 SPECIAL CASES

CLAUSE 80 COMPULSORY REGISTRATION OF GRANTS OUT OF DESMESNE LAND

63. Under English property law, the Crown is the ultimate owner of all land, and both freehold and leasehold estates are held underneath that Crown interest. The Crown land not subject to any freehold or leasehold interests is known as "desmesne land". Such land is not held for an estate, and at present only estates in land can be registered; so that Crown lands cannot attract the considerable benefits of registration. Clause 79 enables Her Majesty to grant an estate in relation to desmesne land to correct that. Clause 80 makes registration of title compulsory when the Crown makes a disposal of desmesne land to a third party, so ensuring that former desmesne land entering the ordinary property market is registered in the usual way. The triggers for first registration on the disposal of demesne land are equivalent to the some of the situations where compulsory registration is triggered on the disposal of freehold or leasehold land. This clause gives the Lord Chancellor power by order to extend the triggers in respect of desmesne land in the same way as clause 5 empowers him to do for freehold or leasehold land. He can also make, under a Henry VIII power, consequential changes to wider legislative provisions, similar in extent to, and for the same reasons as, those set out in clause 5. The exercise of these powers are subject to annulment by resolution of either House of Parliament.

CLAUSE 81 DESMESNE LAND: CAUTIONS AGAINST FIRST REGISTRATION

64. The Bill applies the regime allowing cautions against first registration of land set out in clause 15 to desmesne land as well as freehold and leasehold land. Clause 81 contains a power to adapt the regime set out in the Bill to the extent that it is necessary to do so, to apply to desmesne land. This level of detail can be most appropriately dealt with in rules as it is important to maintain flexibility in this area. Rules can cater for any unforeseen practical effects of the extension of applicability of these provisions to Crown land.





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Note added at 2002-07-30 11:17:23 (GMT)
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En el diccionario Collins, \"Crown lands\" se traduce como \'propiedad de la corona\'.

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Note added at 2002-07-30 11:26:28 (GMT)
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For the translation you could say: El castillo de Lincoln y las tierras/los jardines de la corona
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extensiones feudales

According to Britannica.com:
"In English feudal law, that portion of a manor not granted to freehold tenants but either retained by the lord for his own use and occupation or occupied by his villeins or leasehold tenants. When villein tenure developed into the more secure copyhold and leaseholders became protected against premature eviction, the “lord's demesne” came to be restricted..."
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