Jul 18, 2005 03:50
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referents
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Could you please tell me what does mean “referents” ?
Frameworks help managers by:
providing stability and order in the midst of constant change.
reducing the ever- present existence of change.
eliminating preconceptions.
reducing available referents.
(Developing management skills by Whetten & Cameron,2005)
Frameworks help managers by:
providing stability and order in the midst of constant change.
reducing the ever- present existence of change.
eliminating preconceptions.
reducing available referents.
(Developing management skills by Whetten & Cameron,2005)
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Balasubramaniam L.
India
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Native in: Hindi 
Works in: English to Hindi, Hindi
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reference points
Here referent only means reference points.
When almost everything around you is changing rapidly, as in the case of a flying aeroplane, you need something that is relatively stable and unchanged, to serve as a reference point or a landmark to guide you, otherwise you will get lost in the change.
In ancient times the North Star served as a reference point to ancient mariners to set their route as this star remains in the same place throughtout the year as it right above the North Pole. While all other stars change position (i.e., undergo change), this particular star remains constant and serves as a reference point.
When almost everything around you is changing rapidly, as in the case of a flying aeroplane, you need something that is relatively stable and unchanged, to serve as a reference point or a landmark to guide you, otherwise you will get lost in the change.
In ancient times the North Star served as a reference point to ancient mariners to set their route as this star remains in the same place throughtout the year as it right above the North Pole. While all other stars change position (i.e., undergo change), this particular star remains constant and serves as a reference point.
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ones being referenced to
The other people that the managers (in this case) are being compared to. For example: John Doe is a manager at the local Home Depot's lumber department and he's thinking that he's not being paid as much as Jane Doe who is Home Depot's garden department manager. In this case, Jane Doe is the referent (the one being compared to). (My take on this, it's been a while since business school).
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Note added at 1 hr 35 mins (2005-07-18 05:25:57 GMT)
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I think \'reducing available referents\' in this case does not mean literally getting rid of the referents. It just means that \"Frameworks\" (a theory, concept, or methodology used for training managers, maybe?) will be able to help managers understand other employees\' entitlements; therefore, making managers understand equality better in their minds.
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Note added at 1 hr 35 mins (2005-07-18 05:25:57 GMT)
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I think \'reducing available referents\' in this case does not mean literally getting rid of the referents. It just means that \"Frameworks\" (a theory, concept, or methodology used for training managers, maybe?) will be able to help managers understand other employees\' entitlements; therefore, making managers understand equality better in their minds.
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A referent is the concrete object or concept -
- that is designated by a word or expression. A referent is an object, action, state, relationship, or attribute in the referential realm.
www.sil.org/linguistics/ GlossaryOfLinguisticTerms/WhatIsAReferent.htm
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Note added at 2005-07-18 22:25:36 (GMT)
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Your example, is both incorrect and confusing. JFK Jr. crashed because he was inexperienced in instrument flight (30 years as a pilot speaking) and lost his points of REFERENCE relative to his horizontal and vertical axii. This has NOTHING to do with REFERENTS. Same pronunciation, different meaning. In your context REFERENTS refers to reducing the numbers of physical objects, or \"references\" in French, which loosely translates to \"Inventory\"
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Note added at 2005-07-18 22:33:24 (GMT)
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Frameworks help managers by:
providing stability and order in the midst of constant change.
reducing the ever- present existence of change.
eliminating preconceptions.
reducing available referents
\"Frameworks help managers provide stability by promoting order amid change; thus eliminating it\'s existence and, along with it, the preconceptions of it\'s need and attendent referents.\"
This is what I think the phrase is trying to say.
www.sil.org/linguistics/ GlossaryOfLinguisticTerms/WhatIsAReferent.htm
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Note added at 2005-07-18 22:25:36 (GMT)
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Your example, is both incorrect and confusing. JFK Jr. crashed because he was inexperienced in instrument flight (30 years as a pilot speaking) and lost his points of REFERENCE relative to his horizontal and vertical axii. This has NOTHING to do with REFERENTS. Same pronunciation, different meaning. In your context REFERENTS refers to reducing the numbers of physical objects, or \"references\" in French, which loosely translates to \"Inventory\"
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Note added at 2005-07-18 22:33:24 (GMT)
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Frameworks help managers by:
providing stability and order in the midst of constant change.
reducing the ever- present existence of change.
eliminating preconceptions.
reducing available referents
\"Frameworks help managers provide stability by promoting order amid change; thus eliminating it\'s existence and, along with it, the preconceptions of it\'s need and attendent referents.\"
This is what I think the phrase is trying to say.
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Discussion
The trouble is, when everything is changing, it is impossible to manage change. No one can manage constant and universal change. For example, let�s say you are flying an airplane, moving through space. Everything is changing. You�re constantly moving. The trouble is, it is impossible to guide the plane unless you can find a fixed point, something that doesn�t change. You cannot control the plane if everything is moving at once. Consider the last flight of John Kennedy, Jr., for instance. He began to fly at dusk up the New England coast. He lost sight of land and, because it got dark, of the horizon line as well. He lost his fixed point. He couldn�t see anything stable. The result was disorientation, and he flew his plane into the ocean, probably without knowing he was headed towards water. He couldn�t manage change without a secure referent�something that didn�t change.