Oct 21, 2008 14:09
16 yrs ago
German term
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Verlaine-Lieder
German to English
Art/Literary
Music
Musical history
I am having real difficulty with this description of Zillig's Verlaine songs:
"melancholisch, in sich gekehrt, eine späte, von der Moderne durchdrungene Reminiszenz an die Romantik und stille Ode auch an Frankreich".
So far, I have written:
"melancholy, introverted, a late ode to France, reminiscent of the Romantic movement permeated by the Modern"
but obviously, that isn't quite spot on, especially as it omits the quiet or calmness of the ode.
"melancholisch, in sich gekehrt, eine späte, von der Moderne durchdrungene Reminiszenz an die Romantik und stille Ode auch an Frankreich".
So far, I have written:
"melancholy, introverted, a late ode to France, reminiscent of the Romantic movement permeated by the Modern"
but obviously, that isn't quite spot on, especially as it omits the quiet or calmness of the ode.
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1 day 3 hrs
Graham Timmins
United Kingdom
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reminiscent of French romanticism
a gentle, melancholy and introverted ode, reminiscent of French romanticism whilst also suffused with modernism
('calm', if your prefer to translate 'still' more literally)
I agree with you that we should avoid tacking on the 'stille Ode auch an Frankreich' at the end, as the German rather awkwardly does. The Reminiszenz is both an die Romantik and to France so I combine the two for a more natural flow. I have sacrificed spät as the word reminiscence already makes clear that the Romantic period is long gone!
('calm', if your prefer to translate 'still' more literally)
I agree with you that we should avoid tacking on the 'stille Ode auch an Frankreich' at the end, as the German rather awkwardly does. The Reminiszenz is both an die Romantik and to France so I combine the two for a more natural flow. I have sacrificed spät as the word reminiscence already makes clear that the Romantic period is long gone!
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks!"
32 mins
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
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reminiscence of the Romantic period
My feeble attempt.
melancholy, introverted, a late reminiscence of the Romantic period, permeated by the Modern and a quiet ode to France as well
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Note added at 41 mins (2008-10-21 14:51:07 GMT)
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Perhaps "introspective" for "in sich gekehrt"
melancholy, introverted, a late reminiscence of the Romantic period, permeated by the Modern and a quiet ode to France as well
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Note added at 41 mins (2008-10-21 14:51:07 GMT)
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Perhaps "introspective" for "in sich gekehrt"
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2 hrs
A late return to Romanticism
...melancholy and self-absorbed, a late return to Romanticism that is nonetheless suffused with Modernism; and a quiet ode to France.
I don't think Reminiszenz should be translated directly here
I don't think Reminiszenz should be translated directly here
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Maureen Millington-Brodie
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12
a harking back to the Romantic period
yet (thoroughly) imbued with modernism; a late, quiet ode...
not quite sure whether it is the whole sentence or just a bit of it
not quite sure whether it is the whole sentence or just a bit of it
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Graham Timmins
: I like 'harking back' though I couldn't fit it in to a sentence myself
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