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Pilotage vs management

English translation: Coordination vs management

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French term or phrase:Pilotage vs management
English translation:Coordination vs management
Entered by: Claire Cox

11:26 Feb 25, 2007
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / Property management
French term or phrase: Pilotage vs management
I would normally translate pilotage as "management", but I have it in this text in association with management,

Management et pilotage stratégique
Marketing, communication
Evénementiel
Relations locataires
Travaux 'aménagements et d'extensions
Controle du prestataire
Pilotage opérationnel
etc

This is from a list of activities undertaken by different companies in the property management sector and is part of a Powerpoint presentation so not much background.

Any suggestions?

Many thanks.
Claire Cox
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:24
Coordination vs management
Explanation:
Just don't ask me what the difference is in English!

From my notes:

Pilote Co-Ordinator [see nCE,4.3.93,p14], Contract Manager, Managing Contractor [Scott Building, under management contract]

But since the OPC aspect of a contract is "Ordonnancement, pilotage et coordination de chantier", don't ask me what the difference is between "pilotage" and "coordination"!

Dicobat says:
Pilotage
1/ Conduite et coordination des travaux d'un chantier. GB site management


Pilote (adj.) 1/ l'entreprise pilote d'un chantier de construction est celle qui choisit et dirige les entreprises sous-traitantes, et qui coordonne leurs interventions. GB management contractor.


HTH



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Note added at 21 mins (2007-02-25 11:48:08 GMT)
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Position Summary Responsible for all aspects of construction on Crown Castle sites including; on site management and coordination of contractors,. ...
www.careerbuilder.com/.../CompanyJobResults.aspx?Comp_DID=C...

Site management and coordination of all construction contractors. Ø Monitoring/reporting/managing contractor and construction performance. ...
www.engcen.com/jobad.asp?JobID=14424

The construction engineer may also assist the construction manager with site management and coordination. Qualifications: Applicants should have at least a ...
www.mtb-project.com/careers.htm

Job: Engineer-Planning/Construction/Commissioning Location: Madison, WI Company: Think ... site management and coordination of all construction contractors. ...
www.nationjob.com/job/theg15500
Selected response from:

Bourth (X)
Local time: 04:24
Grading comment
Thanks Alex - I think this fits the bill quite neatly
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2Coordination vs management
Bourth (X)
3 +2Steering / Management
Julie Barber
4management
Alfredo Tanús
4Management and Strategic Direction
B D Finch
3operational and strategic management
Kari Foster
3project development
ustel


  

Answers


16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
management


Explanation:
I would translate that as "management and strategic management". In this text, "pilotage" is associated with "strategique".

Alfredo Tanús
Local time: 23:24
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Coordination vs management


Explanation:
Just don't ask me what the difference is in English!

From my notes:

Pilote Co-Ordinator [see nCE,4.3.93,p14], Contract Manager, Managing Contractor [Scott Building, under management contract]

But since the OPC aspect of a contract is "Ordonnancement, pilotage et coordination de chantier", don't ask me what the difference is between "pilotage" and "coordination"!

Dicobat says:
Pilotage
1/ Conduite et coordination des travaux d'un chantier. GB site management


Pilote (adj.) 1/ l'entreprise pilote d'un chantier de construction est celle qui choisit et dirige les entreprises sous-traitantes, et qui coordonne leurs interventions. GB management contractor.


HTH



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Note added at 21 mins (2007-02-25 11:48:08 GMT)
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Position Summary Responsible for all aspects of construction on Crown Castle sites including; on site management and coordination of contractors,. ...
www.careerbuilder.com/.../CompanyJobResults.aspx?Comp_DID=C...

Site management and coordination of all construction contractors. Ø Monitoring/reporting/managing contractor and construction performance. ...
www.engcen.com/jobad.asp?JobID=14424

The construction engineer may also assist the construction manager with site management and coordination. Qualifications: Applicants should have at least a ...
www.mtb-project.com/careers.htm

Job: Engineer-Planning/Construction/Commissioning Location: Madison, WI Company: Think ... site management and coordination of all construction contractors. ...
www.nationjob.com/job/theg15500


Bourth (X)
Local time: 04:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 377
Grading comment
Thanks Alex - I think this fits the bill quite neatly

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: I like your examples, but I don't think that they translate **pilotage stratégique**.
4 hrs
agree  Alain Pommet: Funnily enough I was stuck on pretty much the same problem when I saw your posting. Thanks! I've decided that 'pilotage' means you direct proceedings, not just coordinate.
6 hrs
agree  Julie Barber
7 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
operational and strategic management


Explanation:
"Operational" management meaning handling the day-to-day decisions, "strategic" management meaning long-term planning. Just an idea -- because personally, I would have associated "pilotage" with the daily aspect and "management" more with the long-term aspect, which is the opposite of what appears in your text.

Kari Foster
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: I think that this is about policy and importance more than about time-scale. Management certainly is concerned with the "daily aspect" of a business. Pilotage is about guiding - at high, strategic level in this case.
2 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Management et pilotage stratégique
Management and Strategic Direction


Explanation:
I think that the **pilotage stratégique** is something that includes policy research and decisions at a higher level than management would necessarily involve.

e.g. "Setting Strategic Direction (purpose, values, vision, top-level goals and methods/strategies) - - - Strategizing (strategic goals and methods/strategies to ..."
www.managementhelp.org/plan_dec/str_plan/str_plan.htm

"Senior management sets the strategic direction for the business as part of business planning, through regular review of the external environment (such as ..."
www.ogc.gov.uk/delivery_lifecycle_setting_direction_introdu...

"As a remedy, the group called for a new White House office to manage strategic direction and government coordination of public diplomacy – that is, ..."
www.iwar.org.uk/psyops/resources/public-diplomacy/pd-adviso...



    Reference: http://www.managementhelp.org/plan_dec/str_plan/str_plan.htm
    Reference: http://www.ogc.gov.uk/delivery_lifecycle_setting_direction_i...
B D Finch
France
Local time: 04:24
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 308
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Steering / Management


Explanation:
I use this in a business context in a bilingual environment and this is how we translate it.

It's just another term for coordination as Bourth has put forward.

For example a specific department can have a 'steering committee' - a team of managers who coordinate / plan for / manage the department.

Julie Barber
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:24
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 166

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  rkillings: definitely, steering committee for 'comité de pilotage'. Oversight is another good word to throw in.
59 mins
agree  French Foodie
14 hrs
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
project development


Explanation:
Whils talking about real estates, "pilotage" means taking care of a project with all its elements: cost, profit, employees, marketing, sales, etc... You can manage a concrete, existing property, but you can "pilot" a future to be project.

ustel
Local time: 05:24
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
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