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unterschritten

English translation: fall below, fall short

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German term or phrase:unterschreiten
English translation:fall below, fall short
Entered by: Elvira Stoianov

06:46 Apr 23, 2002
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Electronics / Elect Eng
German term or phrase: unterschritten
I have two paragraphs dealing with undervoltage and overvoltage. They are very similar, only some contrastive words are changed (e.g. überschreiten unterschreiten)

Wird die Schwelle wieder unterschritten, gelten für die Wiederaufnahme der Botschaftsaussendung bzw. für das
Senden plausibler Signale die gleichen Zeitanforderungen wie beim Systemhochlauf

For the first paragraph I have written
If the threshold value is exceeded, ...
Does anyone know a word for unterscritten that would fir this sentence?
Elvira Stoianov
Luxembourg
Local time: 21:51
... rephrase ...
Explanation:
We have no direct equivalent for 'unterschreiten'. 'fall short' as others has suggested works in some cases, but not in the passive voice.

This means there is no handy word you can substitute for exceeded in this instance.

If the value/voltage/whatever falls short of the threshold value

would be what I would say.

HTH

Mary

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Note added at 2002-04-23 08:00:18 (GMT)
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My comment below is probably a little harsh! This is not the only way of solving the problem, but I do feel it\'s the neatest and most accurate way of rendering the German into English (-:
Selected response from:

Mary Worby
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:51
Grading comment
thanks, it's exactly what I did :-), before seeing your answer, only that I used fall below instead of fall short, but the pharsing is identical. I already sent the translation this morning
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3is not reached
Louise Mawbey
4 +2... rephrase ...
Mary Worby
4 +1falls below, remains below
Klaus Dorn (X)
4fall below, fall short of
Sabine Tietge
4underrun
NickWatson
4undershot
Beth Kantus
4fails to reach the threshold
Dr. Fred Thomson


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
falls below, remains below


Explanation:
unterschreiten (Verb) remain below
fall below

unterschreitet () remains below


Klaus Dorn (X)
Local time: 22:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 3

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Сергей Лузан: The best solution for this particular case, I presume.
54 mins
neutral  Mary Worby: Doesn't work well with the passive form, as in eli's particular context )-:
59 mins
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
fall below, fall short of


Explanation:
HTH

Sabine Tietge
Local time: 01:21
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
is not reached


Explanation:
If the threshold value is not reached

Just an idea as I find it difficult to use fall below (although correct) in the passive.

Louise Mawbey
Germany
Local time: 21:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  jerrie
51 mins
agree  pds
2 hrs
agree  Trudy Peters
5 hrs
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
underrun


Explanation:
Is a term from Ferretti.

NickWatson
Germany
Local time: 21:51
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
... rephrase ...


Explanation:
We have no direct equivalent for 'unterschreiten'. 'fall short' as others has suggested works in some cases, but not in the passive voice.

This means there is no handy word you can substitute for exceeded in this instance.

If the value/voltage/whatever falls short of the threshold value

would be what I would say.

HTH

Mary

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Note added at 2002-04-23 08:00:18 (GMT)
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My comment below is probably a little harsh! This is not the only way of solving the problem, but I do feel it\'s the neatest and most accurate way of rendering the German into English (-:

Mary Worby
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:51
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 42
Grading comment
thanks, it's exactly what I did :-), before seeing your answer, only that I used fall below instead of fall short, but the pharsing is identical. I already sent the translation this morning

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Сергей Лузан: That is quite a difficult way of resolving the small problem.
19 mins
  -> Afraid it's the only way!
agree  Bob Kerns (X)
1 hr
agree  pschmitt
3 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
undershot


Explanation:
If the threshold value is undershot...

HTH!

PDF] MRM3 Motor Protection Relay
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... image. If a current exceeds the threshold value for longer than the trip delay ... elapsed
or the overload threshold is undershot. If the overload threshold is not ...
w3.avkseg.com/docs/htl/mrm3/mrm3_e.pdf

Press Releases
... on temporary voltage drops is retained. If the autarky voltage threshold is undershot,
the iC automatically switches into autarkymode. This mode can also be ...
www.ichaus.com/press.asp?ID=19 - 4k

OnlineCatalog
... released as soon as the rated frequency is undershot. ... that may occur as a result
of a voltage increase and / or frequency drop. Increased induction of this ...
www.e.ptd.siemens.com/ev/catalog/7RW600/7rw600_protfunc_en.... - 25k


Beth Kantus
United States
Local time: 15:51
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 2
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
fails to reach the threshold


Explanation:
This is the way I always said it when I worked for six years in electronics.
Thus: "if (or whenever) the volage fails to reach the threshold."
However, "falls short of," "does not reach" as given above are also used.

Dr. Fred Thomson
United States
Local time: 13:51
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 148
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