Mar 4, 2008 13:12
16 yrs ago
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French term
ostéopathie fragilisante
French to English
Medical
Medical (general)
Enfin, il est très important de s’assurer que les autres causes d’ostéopathie fragilisante ont été éliminées.
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(pathological) bone fragility.
Firstly, I put the "pathological" in parentheses because I don't think it should be included in the translation as it is redundant. What process could produce bone fragility which is not pathological?
"Osteopathie" is a disease of bone, and "fragilisante" qualifies it as one of those diseases that weakens the bone. So, like Drmanu says, (if one were to translate this without thought), one would say it means "bone diseases inducing bone fragility".
However, if one looks at the whole sentence, one would then have to translate it "...one would have to assure that other causes of bone diseases inducing bone fragility have been ruled out".
That clearly is not the intention of the author. He wants to say "it is important to be assured that other causes of bone fragility have been ruled out". The term pathological is assumed. Now, most causes of bone fragility are not due to bone diseases per se, but are caused by extrinsic factors which affect the bone, such as hyperthyroidism, hyperparathyroidism, corticosteroid ingestion etc.
I think that the meaning is clear enough in French, even if it is not technically correct, but if you translate it, as is, into English, you get garbage. The author's intent is to caution the reader to rule out other intrinsic and EXTRINSIC causes of bone fragility.
So who am I to to change the text? I am a knowledgeable translator/editor whose job is to convey meaning. I understand the author's meaning because of my technical expertise.
http://edrv.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/er.2006-00...
"Osteopathie" is a disease of bone, and "fragilisante" qualifies it as one of those diseases that weakens the bone. So, like Drmanu says, (if one were to translate this without thought), one would say it means "bone diseases inducing bone fragility".
However, if one looks at the whole sentence, one would then have to translate it "...one would have to assure that other causes of bone diseases inducing bone fragility have been ruled out".
That clearly is not the intention of the author. He wants to say "it is important to be assured that other causes of bone fragility have been ruled out". The term pathological is assumed. Now, most causes of bone fragility are not due to bone diseases per se, but are caused by extrinsic factors which affect the bone, such as hyperthyroidism, hyperparathyroidism, corticosteroid ingestion etc.
I think that the meaning is clear enough in French, even if it is not technically correct, but if you translate it, as is, into English, you get garbage. The author's intent is to caution the reader to rule out other intrinsic and EXTRINSIC causes of bone fragility.
So who am I to to change the text? I am a knowledgeable translator/editor whose job is to convey meaning. I understand the author's meaning because of my technical expertise.
http://edrv.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/er.2006-00...
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brittle bone disease
Off the top of my head..
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debilitating osteopathy
:)
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Bone diseases inducing bone fragility
Metastases. Researchers from Inserm Unit 403 “Pathophysiology of Osteopathies Inducing. Bone Fragility” in Lyon have just shown that an endogenous factor, ...
ist.inserm.fr/basispresse/CPS/CPS2004anglais/16December2004.pdf -
CTIBL causes bone fragility and an increased susceptibility to fractures; therefore, ..... Metastatic bone disease: clinical features, pathophysiology and ...
www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524499
INSIGHTS INTO MATERIAL AND STRUCTURAL BASIS OF BONE FRAGILITY FROM DISEASES ..... metabolic bone diseases such as glucocorticoid-induced osteoporosis (GIO). ...
www.level1diet.com/Bone Diseases Metabolic_q - 115k -
ist.inserm.fr/basispresse/CPS/CPS2004anglais/16December2004.pdf -
CTIBL causes bone fragility and an increased susceptibility to fractures; therefore, ..... Metastatic bone disease: clinical features, pathophysiology and ...
www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524499
INSIGHTS INTO MATERIAL AND STRUCTURAL BASIS OF BONE FRAGILITY FROM DISEASES ..... metabolic bone diseases such as glucocorticoid-induced osteoporosis (GIO). ...
www.level1diet.com/Bone Diseases Metabolic_q - 115k -
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Michael Barnett
: I don't like this. First it is sounds clumsy. Secondly, although is translates what the text says, I don't think it translates what the author meant. See my post.
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osteoporosis
would be the most common way of saying this in English - osteoporosis has many causes and results in fragile bones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteoporosis
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-03-04 18:08:43 GMT)
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http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article3148....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteoporosis
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-03-04 18:08:43 GMT)
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http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article3148....
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Irene McClure
: this seems right, but isn't 'ostéoporose' the French term for osteoporosis, while 'osteopathie' means 'osteopathy'?
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thank you irene - osteopathy is simply bone disease.
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Cetacea
: "ostéopathie fragilisante" also includes osteopenia, not only osteoporosis. See e.g. http://www.actupparis.org/article1486.html
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yes, but it's a difference in terms of degree - see the second link I posted, where osteoporosis is referred to as "fragile bone disease"
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Assimina Vavoula
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merci assimina
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Drmanu49
: Osteoporosis is too limited.
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depends on context
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ChrisGT
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Michael Barnett
: Sorry Debbie. Osteoporosis is a specific disease, just one of many that can produce bone fragility.
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upon reflection, I think you are right. I was a bit hasty, and if they'd wanted osteoporosis, they'd have written ostéoporose...
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